Terror in the Sky!

Skeptic49 · 04-02-2017, 06:25 AM

Per a reference on the Bayou Renaissance Man blog:
Bayou Renaissance Man: The real danger of very large airliners
and
Accident: Emirates A388 over Arabian Sea on Jan 7th 2017, wake turbulence sends business jet in uncontrolled descent

I'm unfamiliar with "The Aviation Herald" anyone with knowledge?

Massive jets with massive wakes are a danger even to high performance biz jets.

What happens to the poor schmuck in a Cessna 177 just outside controlled airspace?

Geoff
Who has given up flying, the toilets are too few and too small, especially in Boeing aircraft since the Mickey-Dee management take over.

CaptainGyro · 04-02-2017, 08:36 AM

This is even a concern when the following aircraft is also a heavy. In that case the wake won't roll you all the way over but it will rock your world to the point of bouncing people off the ceiling.

On the North Atlantic Track structure we used a simple but effective preventative measure: SLOP, or Strategic Lateral Offset Procedure (no joke, that's what it's called). The way it works is that once you're established on one of the tracks, you consider the wind and the aircraft ahead of you, then displace your ground track either 0, 1, or 2 nautical miles to the right of the track. That way you stay out of his wake. For example, if the guy ahead of me is displaced 1 mile right, and the wind is from our left, I can safely remain on the centerline.

This displacement procedure became necessary with the advent of GPS. The satellite navigation is so precise that two aircraft flying the same route can literally bore the same hole through the sky.

WaltGraham · 04-02-2017, 04:22 PM

Supposedly distraction arising from a concern for wake turbulence was a reason Harrison Ford set his a/c down on a taxiway...

(Returning from a Kessel Run)

04-02-2017, 06:25 AM	#1
Skeptic49 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: St. Augustine, FL Posts: 2,455	Terror in the Sky! Per a reference on the Bayou Renaissance Man blog: Bayou Renaissance Man: The real danger of very large airliners and Accident: Emirates A388 over Arabian Sea on Jan 7th 2017, wake turbulence sends business jet in uncontrolled descent I'm unfamiliar with "The Aviation Herald" anyone with knowledge? Massive jets with massive wakes are a danger even to high performance biz jets. What happens to the poor schmuck in a Cessna 177 just outside controlled airspace? Geoff Who has given up flying, the toilets are too few and too small, especially in Boeing aircraft since the Mickey-Dee management take over.

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04-02-2017, 08:36 AM	#2
CaptainGyro Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Greater Waxhaw Metropolitan Area Posts: 1,711	This is even a concern when the following aircraft is also a heavy. In that case the wake won't roll you all the way over but it will rock your world to the point of bouncing people off the ceiling. On the North Atlantic Track structure we used a simple but effective preventative measure: SLOP, or Strategic Lateral Offset Procedure (no joke, that's what it's called). The way it works is that once you're established on one of the tracks, you consider the wind and the aircraft ahead of you, then displace your ground track either 0, 1, or 2 nautical miles to the right of the track. That way you stay out of his wake. For example, if the guy ahead of me is displaced 1 mile right, and the wind is from our left, I can safely remain on the centerline. This displacement procedure became necessary with the advent of GPS. The satellite navigation is so precise that two aircraft flying the same route can literally bore the same hole through the sky.

04-02-2017, 04:22 PM	#3
WaltGraham Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Shenandoah Valley Posts: 3,892	Supposedly distraction arising from a concern for wake turbulence was a reason Harrison Ford set his a/c down on a taxiway... (Returning from a Kessel Run)