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Old 01-23-2004, 08:48 AM   #1
 
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Ithaca 10 GA - Good shotgun for Home Defense?

I have a chance to buy an Ithaca 10 GA semi auto. Are they reliable shotguns? Do they have a good reputation?

I had planned use it for hunting and to keep it in the bedroom for self defense. Good idea? I live in a wood structure home with my nearest neighbor about 10 yards away. Will it go through a sheetrock/wooden stud wall?

I have no experience with these.
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Old 01-23-2004, 01:09 PM   #2
 
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10 Gauge is pretty ferocious. Penetration will be a function of the ammo you choose to use slugs, buck or bird
Have you shot it? Do you have a spouse? Will she be able to handle it?
I think there are better choices
Good luck, though, with whatever you choose
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Old 01-23-2004, 01:58 PM   #3
 
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It was once nicknamed "the Roadblocker" because of its reputation at stopping vehicles that tried running them.

Expensive to feed. No fun to blast cans with. It would be handy for knocking down a Velociraptor if one ever attacks you.

It is a fairly specialized piece of hardware, you probably don't need one unless you already have too many guns, and just want something for braggin' rights. 12 gauge slugs kick more than a lot of guys can handle. I cringe at what a 10 might do, and if practice hurts, you won't train, and then what's the point of having it, if you can't enjoy using it enough to get good with it, or afford enough boxes of shells to stay good with it.

I'd advise buying one ONLY if the price was very right, just to have. But if it was going to be your only hunting/self defense firearm, it would be a very poor choice regardless of price.

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Old 01-23-2004, 05:05 PM   #4
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in the house a 10ga is alot to much. for most home type sit a 2 3/4 12ga shell is plenty. also the 10g is not the easiest of guns to find the shells for. a 12 ga is much easier to find a greater verity of shells that will do almost anything you will want a shotgun to do.
that said i have 2 10ga and there is no better goose or turkey shotgun made. i also have a 3 1/2 inch chambered 12ga that is a good all around shot gun but like all jack of all trades it is not master of none.
if the price is rite buy it try it you like it
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Old 01-23-2004, 06:00 PM   #5
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How long is the barrel? Can you go down the stairs or around a corner with the shotgun?
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Old 01-23-2004, 07:08 PM   #6
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I have only seen 1 10 gauge and that has bought by the only guy I knew that had to have the biggest of everything.

He was proud and showed it to everyone......I watched him pulls the trigger twice and I never saw or heard about it again

For an HD shot gun and the wifey might need things I would tone it back to a Winchester Defender of Mossy 500 in 20 gauge and practice.

There is an old saying that if the Clackity Clack, don't come back no more, no more, no more don't turn them away maybe you need to get out

Call up the 1st Air Cav or some Arty unit and forgo the 10 gau with neighbors so close.........they know where the BG is.

HD interior you want small, short barrel and compact not a 28 inch tube to let the BG know just where you are 3 feet before you get there.

Just my opinion but then my M1A, Garand and all other long guns are locked in the safe......Out and about are a Cetme in .308, M1 Carbine and a few 1911's.

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Old 01-23-2004, 07:56 PM   #7
 
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I have shot a 10 a few time duck hinting with my friends. I will not own a 10 for anything. I would hate to know I had to try a follow up shot on a moving bad guy. A 12 ga in the house with a load of 7 1/2 bird shot is hard to beat. I have a 20 ga o/u that I used to bird hunt with and it's got the screw in choke system, with the cyl choke it will up up at about 10 yards. Any shotgun at close range say under 10 yards will not open up any pattern at all. It's like a big rifle I think a double barrel 12 or 20 with a cyl choke and a load of Rem Exp bird shot #7 1/2 would be bad news on BG's. The up side of a double barrel fouling piece is that it is a hunting gun. Right? I mean what DA could give you a fit about using a sporting arm to save a man's castle? Jeff Copper like them. Enuff said!
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Old 01-24-2004, 09:40 AM   #8
 
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I have a 10 ga. bolt action shotgun with a 38 inch barrel. It's recoil firing 3.5 inch magnum loads is quite a bit LESS than my Mossberg 12 ga. pump firing 3 inch magnum loads.

This is another example showing that recoil is dramatically reduced by the weight of the weapon. To say that a 10 gauge kicks harder than a 12 gauge is a generalization and not a hard and fast rule. Another example: a .38 Spl derringer kicks harder than a .44 Magnum Ruger Blackhawk.

But to get back to the subject: My 10 ga. is a very poor home defense weapon. A baseball bat or shovel handle is dramatically faster and more effective than trying to swing that long heavy anti-aircraft gun up to the shoulder or around a corner. 10 gauge ammo is getting hard to find too, just like 16 gauge, and if you do find it, expect to pay $2 per round and not get the load you want.

For home defense, a short barrel 20 gauge semi-auto loaded with BB or 1/4 buck is my preference... FWIW
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Old 01-24-2004, 07:14 PM   #9
 
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For a defensive deal, a 10guage double barrel should surely make 'em start backing up, but so should any other shotgun. Especially when they see that big hole in the front end. I'm thinking for this purpose anything that 10guage will do, the 12s will do better for you.
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Old 01-24-2004, 09:26 PM   #10
 
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I would advise against it as well as every one else you wont meet a man in your life that wont be stoped by 00 buck shot. If there is a rare case you miss or he doesnt go down you will be able to confidently give a second shot. Where i think with a 10 you might be not confident enough i know 99.99 percent people wouldnt be because of the extremely large calber. thats my take
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Old 02-11-2004, 09:20 AM   #11
 
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A baseball bat or shovel handle is dramatically faster and more effective than trying to swing that long heavy anti-aircraft gun up to the shoulder or around a corner. Sustinemus


I think you guys are confusing the general purpose Ithaca Mag 10, or Deerslayer, with the Ithaca Mag 10 "Roadblocker" which had a factory 20", or 22", barrel.
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Old 02-11-2004, 10:28 AM   #12
 
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You could likely ventilate several houses in a row with a 10ga. slug. There are much better choices for home defense.
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Old 02-11-2004, 04:16 PM   #13
 
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Unless it is a super deal there are many very good HD 12 gauges out there I would choose over a 10 gauge
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Old 02-13-2004, 08:28 AM   #14
 
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How good are you at Drywall repair, cause you fire that monster in the house and even if you hit the bad guy you will be repairing a few layers of it!!!
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REVIVING this 16 year old THREAD:

Its April 2020 and we have COVID19 spreading rapidly in the United States. Thousands dead.

I do in fact own an Ithaca Mag-10 that has been professionally shortened to a 24in barrel. I have ALL carlson chokes available for the gun. I want to change to home defense with this gun, as my 20ga is elsewhere at the moment.

CAN THE MAG-10 BE MODIFIED TO HOLD MORE THAN 2 SHELLS IN THE MAGAZINE?
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Old 04-08-2020, 03:53 PM   #16
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To All,

This is definitely a case of THREAD RESURRECTION from 2004.

THAT SAID: The MAG TEN or its cousin, the ROADBLOCKER, is a specialist firearm that is UNSURPASSED for long-range duck/goose hunting.
(THE mighty ROADBLOCKER would be MY CHOICE for STOPPING DANGEROUS GAME "in the thick stuff".)


Should you run upon a T-REX, you will NOT be "UNDER-GUNNED" with either ITHACA.

FWIW, HARRY SELBY, the justly famous PROFESSIONAL HUNTER, often said that, "I would trust nothing less than a 10-bore double-barrel, loaded with heavy shot, to turn a wounded Cape Buffalo at close range."
(Selby's PET was a SxS 10-GAUGE MATADOR, loaded with 000 buckshot.)

yours, sw
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To All,

This is definitely a case of THREAD RESURRECTION from 2004.

THAT SAID: The MAG TEN or its cousin, the ROADBLOCKER, is a specialist firearm that is UNSURPASSED for long-range duck/goose hunting.
(THE mighty ROADBLOCKER would be MY CHOICE for STOPPING DANGEROUS GAME "in the thick stuff".)


Should you run upon a T-REX, you will NOT be "UNDER-GUNNED" with either ITHACA.

FWIW, HARRY SELBY, the justly famous PROFESSIONAL HUNTER, often said that, "I would trust nothing less than a 10-bore double-barrel, loaded with heavy shot, to turn a wounded Cape Buffalo at close range."
(Selby's PET was a SxS 10-GAUGE MATADOR, loaded with 000 buckshot.)

yours, sw
But,

CAN THE MAG-10 BE MODIFIED TO HOLD MORE THAN 2 SHELLS IN THE MAGAZINE?

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Not my first choice for home defense unless I was expecting The Terminator.
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IIRC, Shelly had problems with black mombas and got chewed on one night by a leopard. Oh, wait a minute, it was Raurk that had the leopard in his face.

If we're talking about stateside and a 2 legged do-bad, then a 20 works with 000 and a 12 works even better. A 10 gauge for a soft skinned critter of that sort a 10 is excessive. Don't forget you don't want over penetration in the house and it not recommended outside because of who/what may be down range.

FWI, here's my preferred cure for night-crawlers:




You'd need to replace the mag tube on the Mac 10 and Nurmich doesn't seem to have one.

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Old 04-08-2020, 11:43 PM   #20
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csmkersh,

IF we did NOT have POLAR BEARS, GRIZZLY BEARS & FERAL BULLS in the USA, I would agree with you 100%.
(IF I'm hunting in an area of FAR South TX,where feral bulls are COMMON & in the "thick stuff", I routinely carry my Model 760 in 9.3x62mm.)

Personally,since I do NOT "pass shoot" ducks/geese OR go to Alaska to hunt/fish in bear country, I likely will NOT buy either 10 gauge. UNTIL/UNLESS we head off to Africa next year.

SELBY's "closest call" & as he said, "- - -- the nearest that I came to having dinner with Jesus" was when he had to go "into the bush" to kill a lioness that a client had GUT-SHOT. - The lioness pounced upon his back, knocked him down & went for his spine with teeth & claws. Selby's gunbearer speared the lioness in back of the neck & ended her attack.

TO ANSWER THE ORIGINAL QUERY: For house defense, I want my old remington Model 870 RIOT-GUN with #4 buckshot.

yours, sw

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