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Old 09-28-2005, 04:06 PM   #1
 
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Important "Must Have" item for your retreat stash!

What's one thing that most people don't have or even think about having in their statsh inventory? It's something every living thing on this planet needs and can't live without! It will be necessary to stash this item....especially for long term survival when there will be no electricity!!!


No.....it ain't TP either!!!!!


Come on....what is it?














SALT! This item was used as currency centuries ago due to it's inherant value in preserving foods and in cooking! Try and do any for presevation or hide tanning without it.





Can you use the 40-50 lb bags of it that are used for your water softener?
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Old 09-28-2005, 04:29 PM   #2
 
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What good is salt without pepper?
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Old 09-28-2005, 04:44 PM   #3
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You need salt to survive really, meats do have salt in them but not inherently enough. This is why I keep a backpackers salt and pepper shaker filled in my bob..
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Old 09-28-2005, 04:45 PM   #4
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Salt is salt is salt. However, some insist that iodine is an important ingredient. I've got 50+ pounds of Morton's purchased at Sam's club. As I recall it was on the order of twenty cents a pound.
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Old 09-28-2005, 05:12 PM   #5
 
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Both areas in which I live~ I'm not too concerned about salt. In one I'm rather close to salt water. The other spot has such hard water I wouldn't have to boil much to get a full platefull in no time just using the sun....Yea, so its got some impurities- name something in it though that will hurt me

There ARE other ways to tan a hide without salt.......

Its on the list of "nice to have" but not on my list of NEED to have. Smoked Homemade jerky doesn't require any............

Metalhead
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Old 09-28-2005, 05:31 PM   #6
 
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*nod*

The salt is a necessity and another good item to add to the stash!
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Old 09-28-2005, 07:00 PM   #7
 
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As long as the softener salt doesn't have the iron remover or other cleaning type stuff in it I wouldn't feel to bad about using it if that's all I had .
If you have oppourtunity to get table or Kosher salt , better still sea salt , I'd rather go that way .

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Old 09-28-2005, 07:02 PM   #8
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don't forget the salt peter :P :P
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Old 09-28-2005, 07:05 PM   #9
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don't forget the salt peter :P :P
oh yea, tree stump remover is a great source for that one!
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Old 09-28-2005, 08:36 PM   #10
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Salt? I have used to to keep my traps from freezing down in the winter, helps to find where ya put 'em too as when the ground is all frozen the trap location will be the only wet spot in the area. Always wondered what the fox and coyote thought about that wet spot.

We keep a good stock of that item, and salt peter is a good thing to have for curing your own hams. Also, good for making black powder, or so I've heard.
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Old 09-28-2005, 11:14 PM   #11
 
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re saltpeter for curing meat, I heard somewhere that its use isn't recommended, and that IIRC potassium nitrate (saltpeter being sodium nitrate) is used instead now, it being healthier to consume. But consuming overlarge quantities of any nitrates is not recommended, especially for pregnant women.
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Old 09-29-2005, 12:46 AM   #12
 
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consuming overlarge quantities of any nitrates is not recommended, especially for pregnant women.
LOL! Sorry Mark & certainly no offense! But I immediatly thought of a serious TV documentary announcer in his most serious voice when you said that and thought "And here we have ladies and gentlemen a male member of the species that has had no contact with pregnant females~ for in having had previous contact he would know that a pregnant female will eat ANYTHING She dang well pleases"LOL! Nitrates, salt peter, pickles, ice cream, taco's with peanut butter Peanut butter with cream cheese Ain't NOTHIN' gonna stop 'em!!!!

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Old 09-29-2005, 12:59 AM   #13
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Well the MOST important thing to have in your stash when the time comes is................................................ .................YOURSELF!!!!!

:P

And plenty of clean water.. <<<<<you can go a while without food.. But you die in days without water.
 
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Yeah metalhead, I know how women are about eating when they are pregnant (though you are right in that I dont have any kids yet). But, I know a couple that quit smoking when they got pregnant - which shows to my mind that some of them can be real motivated when it comes to the health of the baby. I guess I could always get a job as a radio announcer
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Yeah metalhead, I know how women are about eating when they are pregnant (though you are right in that I dont have any kids yet). But, I know a couple that quit smoking when they got pregnant - which shows to my mind that some of them can be real motivated when it comes to the health of the baby. I guess I could always get a job as a radio announcer
I wish that will power was more common. I saw tooooo many addicted newborns and seriously screwed up kids while working in a hospital & dear ol mom needing junk, smack, crack, crank, weed, or all of the above. Call me numb- I know they're dangerous(nitrates)- I really do- its just sooo far down on my goota worry about list..........BUT when you're right- you're right & it IS something to consider, guess I better bump 'er up some notches

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PS....Don't EVER stand between the refrigerator and pregnant woman
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PS....Don't EVER stand between the refrigerator and pregnant woman

Or a pregnant woman and the bathroom when she has morning sickness!!!! :barf:

Or a pregnant woman and when she's decorating the baby's room before her due date!!

Or a pregnant woman when she's horny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Or a pregnant woman when she's crying about nothing!!
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Old 09-29-2005, 05:07 AM   #17
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Moderation!!! If we over do anything, even water, it can have an ill effect on our health. Think of all us old timers that were raised up on home cured meats along with other things now either removed from the market, banned, or come with health warnings. Now look at the warning to most supposed safe medications people are using - prescribed by their doctor, or even the stuff OTC at WalMart.

I didn't mention the illegal use of drugs, because that would seem like that last thing us survival/preparedness people would be involved with. So much for that, salt is critical for our livelihood, but too much of that can also be bad for us. Think MODERATION!!!
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I only mentioned the nitrate issue because it was a bit of a suprise to me, and I love the taste of cured meat - I munch of jerky and such as often as possible - and I didnt know if y'all had heard about the potential health issues.

As far as storing salt, I remember reading a post nuclear war novel back when I was in grade school (I cant remember the name of the book, but it was written in the late fifties or the early sixties), and one of the plot devices was how the characters had to go out and search for a source of salt.
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Old 09-29-2005, 08:59 PM   #19
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Mark G, that book was "Alas, Babylon". Don't remember the author, but you are right, they traveled to a small cove with salt beaches to resupply.
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