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Old 03-19-2017, 01:55 PM   #1
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Home defense setup

Home defense setup.

Top: Mossberg 500
Pistol: Springfield XD .40
Bottom: IAC Hawk 982
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Old 09-27-2017, 03:58 PM   #2
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Steven Savage 320 12 ga.pump shotgun. & Taurus 605 .357 Mag. & Taurus 85 Polymer .38 SPL+P
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Old 09-28-2017, 06:56 AM   #3
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Steven Savage 320 12 ga.pump shotgun. & Taurus 605 .357 Mag. & Taurus 85 Polymer .38 SPL+P
Ah a minimalist!
Good choices, I might have gone for the Mossberg Maverick.

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Who is not a minimalist.
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Old 12-18-2017, 07:05 AM   #5
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Hi Power next to the bed, backed up by an AR-180. Straight from the Belfast rifle team...
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1911 and Inland M1 Carbine. Rem 870 and AR on standby if things get REALLY serious.
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1911 and Inland M1 Carbine. Rem 870 and AR on standby if things get REALLY serious.
I imagine something that can't be solved with a 1911 and M1 Carbine just may not be solvable when it comes to home defense. Two really solid choices. Only reason my 180 is on the job is because my Inland is worth more to me than the 180... My Inland is pretty special to me... One of the first guns I ever bought as an adult.

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1911 at hand, AR pistol in laptop case at bedside. (BIIIIIIG laptop, BIIIIIIIIIIIG case. )

Rub is, the AR has some no-longer available parts in it so I find myself looking for similar but replaceable ones to build a more "expendable" replacement and kick this one over into a "competition gun." (Anybody got a line on an Vltor CASV-EL handguard nobody wants anymore?)
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I imagine something that can't be solved with a 1911 and M1 Carbine just may not be solvable when it comes to home defense. Two really solid choices. Only reason my 180 is on the job is because my Inland is worth more to me than the 180... My Inland is pretty special to me... One of the first guns I ever bought as an adult.

What a coincidence. My first M1 carbine was either my first or second gun purchase (I don't remember if it came before or after my Rem 581), but it was definitely my first centerfire. It's a Quality Hardware.

My Inland was built up from parts and I considered it semi-disposable, which is why it's on house duty. But I'm rethinking that. I have an original high-wood M1A1 stock, and the Inland receiver is of a SN range that it COULD have been an M1A1, and it has the original dated barrel to boot. So I'm thinking of putting the Inland in the Inland M1A1 stock and retiring it, and putting the Quality on house detail. The Quality is rarer, and it was one of my first guns, BUT it's been drilled (4 holes) for a scope mount (was like that when I bought it), so its value has been cut substantially.

The only snag is that the Inland has been function-checked with Winchester hollow points, and the Quality has not. At today's ammo prices, I'm not sure I can afford to function-test those HPs again. They seem to be made of crushed rubies and bald eagle eggs.
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The only snag is that the Inland has been function-checked with Winchester hollow points, and the Quality has not. At today's ammo prices, I'm not sure I can afford to function-test those HPs again. They seem to be made of crushed rubies and bald eagle eggs.
Too funny...totally agree...

Mine has been function tested with Winchester JHP’s as well. And not only are they expensive, but they’re a bear to find anymore. The Cor-Bon load with the Barrnes X bullet is absolutely awesome, but OMG expensive.

I have found GI carbines to not care too much about bullet as long as the overall length is right. Start messing with the OAL to any significance and they become unhappy rifles.
Fortunately it’s passable with FMJ’s, quite respectable with soft points…and d downright wicked with HP’s.

The M1 Carbine is about as fun as a semi-auto rifle gets in my book. As a serious defensive rifle in an urban environment, I think they’re actually kinda tough to beat when paired with the right ammo. Let’s say it’s a perfect world and you have 10 or so 15 rounders full of Cor-Bon/Barnes ammo. You have a 5.5lb carbine that’s super easy to operate and be proficient with. It’s VERY reliable. And with that load, terminal ballistics inside 200m are significantly better than a 5.56 FMJ, and barrier penetration is better than an M855. I’m not sure many people realize that.

With the Winchester load, you lose some barrier penetration due to that soft lead up front, but you get bullet performance that reminds me of the Remington 125gr .357 load. It tends to expand, fracture, and break up in 3-4 pieces, tearing up a LOT of tissue. The Coyote’s I have shot with that Winchester JHP load looked like they were hit by a Tomohawk missile…bang, flop!!

Even the lowly SP is pretty darned effective, and I consider most of the factory SP bullets to be rather poorly designed. Expansion does happen, but not a whole lot of it. On the plus side, penetration is greatly increased. I have never recovered a .30 Carbine SP on any animal I’ve shot with them (Foxes, Coyote’s, and ole Peter Cottontail); it’s always a through & through affair.

The little M1 in the photo is a great love of mine that’s for sure. It gets fought over at the range as all my kids just think it’s the coolest little rifle ever imagined. Even when I took them machinegun shooting two weeks ago. If they had a choice between my M1 Carbine or ANY of the machineguns on hand (M60, BREN, UZI, M4, AK-74, G33, Beretta M3 and all of my kids would put down whatever machinegun they have in their hands, and go pick up the M1 Carbine. That little rifles is more addictive than crack.

As for the whole expendable thing...here’s how I look at it. In MOST cases I just don’t sweat it, but I do have a couple of guns I would greatly prefer to never use for defense; and that particular M1 is one of them. Now honestly, I have never seen a better looking M1 Carbine than mine. It retains a good 98% of its finish, and it has a stunning striped birch and matching handguard…so she has supermodel looks. But the little rifle just owns my heard. Ever since I saw the movie “The Bridges at Toko-Ri”, which was the first time I had ever seen an M1 Carbine, so it was literally love at first sight... Anyhow, I was instantly entranced and I knew I would have to have one. I was working for the importer, so I actually got to sift through 11,000 Carbines to find mine. My first choice my boss wouldn’t sell to me; it was still in Cosmoline & wax paper…so the boss man got that one. But he did let me buy this one. It has been a stellar performer for a good 30 years now. I have NEVER had a single malfunction that could be attributed to the gun itself…which is impressive considering 30 years and OMG a lot of rounds. It isn’t the most reliable semi-auto I have ever owned…it’s the most reliable rifle I have ever owned period…regardless of action type.

So after 30 years of being my go-to rifle, I finally pulled it from “frontline” service, and replaced it with the AR-180 (another stellar performer for me). But if I feel it’s needed, I will grab the little M1 for self defense regardless of how irreplaceable it may be.

I have considered an A1 stock for my IBM Carbine. Problem is, the various A1 stocks I’ve seen over the years have varied greatly in quality and “correctness”, so I would want to either see first hand the individual stock I’m considering. Or buy from someone I know/trust who knows a thing or two about M1 Carbines.

Okay…sorry for the long winded response. I just tend to get a little out of control when the subject of M1 Carbines comes up.
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1911 and Inland M1 Carbine. Rem 870 and AR on standby if things get REALLY serious.
Same setup for me Snake M1 is within arms reach of the bed and I have a the SF WWII replica 1911 in another room half way down the hall.

Kevin:My first carbine I ever purchased was the a Universal double spring setup
and was accurate and never had an issue.The Inland I have now I got in 97 from a friend of mines collection along with a 1956 Garand.He had been paralyzed from the neck down for 20years outlived the doctors expectations by 10 so those two rifles will never leave the collection.Mike had a 1917 Enfield with what looked like red paint remains on the stock with bayo his father was going to let me have and the wife raided my account needless to say she lost the card after that I was pissed.
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