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Old 04-17-2016, 04:42 PM   #21
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Might have been the Stephen Hunter Bob Lee Swagger epic Time to Hunt.
Could have been, my memory ain't what is used to be.

And it doesn't take much to convince me to drop 2 ounces of Bulleit Frontier in a rocks glass these days...
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Old 04-17-2016, 06:32 PM   #22
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And I think a night scope was involved as well.
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Old 04-18-2016, 02:41 AM   #23
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And I think a night scope was involved as well.
That was a different Hunter book, I think, the one where Earl gets offed.
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I don't know the order Hunter wrote, but the trail started in WWII with the Russians developing a night scope. I think the same sniper w used the scope to later kill Earl. It's been a long time since I read Black Light or Time to Hunt.

Ought to go back through the series but in the story time line order, not order Hunter wrote them.
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What would you buy?
M1 Carbine, SKS, Garand; in that order.
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I don't know the order Hunter wrote, but the trail started in WWII with the Russians developing a night scope. I think the same sniper w used the scope to later kill Earl. It's been a long time since I read Black Light or Time to Hunt.

Ought to go back through the series but in the story time line order, not order Hunter wrote them.
The Master Sniper used a Stg45. Earl was killed with an M3 sniper carbine.
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Are 80%'s or even raw forgings (or unbent AK flats) still available? At that level of intrusion, I'll be done buying and move to machining my own iron.

So while I don't LIKE AR's *OR* AK's much I'd still be quietly adding more of both to the home armory with nobody ever having a clue... and if somebody gets nosy disassemble the "bolt-together plate" AR lower receivers and mount the furniture/uppers on blanks as "non-firearm display pieces."

Never underestimate people's creativity in getting things some government jackboot doesn't want them to have...
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Never underestimate people's creativity in getting things some government jackboot doesn't want them to have...
My point precisely.
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One of the (very) few things CBS News ever did was a program called "The Gunmakers of Peshawar". It showed folks carving receivers out of blocks of steel with files, hacksaws and drills. I don't recall when the program ran, but it was during the USSR Afghani Adventure.

In the early 1990's I had #2 son in what amounted to a firearms warehouse. The look on his face when he saw 50 yard long racks of Mausers was interesting. He did hunt me down later to ask why several SMLEs were several hundred dollars while others were $79.95. I was expecting to see some sniper versions, but what I found were several examples of the Peshawar gunsmithing. I was very impressed. They did a better machining job than Enfield did.

Just think what an enterprising machinist could do in their spare time here.
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One of the (very) few things CBS News ever did was a program called "The Gunmakers of Peshawar". It showed folks carving receivers out of blocks of steel with files, hacksaws and drills. I don't recall when the program ran, but it was during the USSR Afghani Adventure.

In the early 1990's I had #2 son in what amounted to a firearms warehouse. The look on his face when he saw 50 yard long racks of Mausers was interesting. He did hunt me down later to ask why several SMLEs were several hundred dollars while others were $79.95. I was expecting to see some sniper versions, but what I found were several examples of the Peshawar gunsmithing. I was very impressed. They did a better machining job than Enfield did.

Just think what an enterprising machinist could do in their spare time here.
Sounds almost like Pakistan should go into exporting "too expensive to make anymore" historic firearm reproductions...
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short version of CBS piece

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Talking Interesting video.

Talk about your old fashioned, open air bazaar gun-getting emporiums! Does it come with a warranty?
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Same thing went on in China during WWII. Back in the '80's when I worked for a small arms importer, in the days when you could import WWII US weapons; we saw some strange things cone in.

One was an M2 carbine with a hand made bold. But the guy put the extractor in the wrong place, so every piece of brass would promptly go into your forehead; at a rate of 775rpm.

Then there was the masterpiece; oh how I wish I had a photo of it (we were all fighting over who got to keep it; I lost out).

It was a S&W Victory(ish) model...only the gun maker seemed to have been confused. Because it had the grip and hammer of a Broomhandle Mauser. We called it the "This is why gun control will never, ever work" gun.
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anything other than an M1 carbine.....

but my 20 yo M1a will do.......
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anything other than an M1 carbine.....

but my 20 yo M1a will do.......
Blasphemy!!!

M1A's are really nice, until you have to carry them and 150 rounds of loaded mags.
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"until you have to carry them and 150 rounds of loaded mags."

the results make the effort worth while.....
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To All,

"Mister Charlie" made some REALLY nice firearms in "jungle factories" during RVN. - I once saw an ersatz 1911A1 in 7.62x25mm & not a US government part in sight.

They were also making lots of ersatz Port Said copies of the Swedish K, too, which were UGLY cosmetically but shot FA just fine. - I'd guess that that's what's called: a copy of a copy.
(I used to have an Army buddy who said that, "You can give Charley most any item & he'll figure out how to make something go 'bang' or BOOM with it.")

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Old 04-23-2016, 04:27 PM   #38
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Blasphemy!!!

M1A's are really nice, until you have to carry them and 150 rounds of loaded mags.
And that's without the E2 stock and bipod.
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And that's without the E2 stock and bipod.
True story!
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