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Old 02-23-2011, 08:59 AM   #1
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Former AR Snob Now Happy AK Owner

I used to be a hard line "love AR's hate AK's" guy. I looked down my nose at all things AK. Considered them "junk" and not worth a real shooters time or trouble. Now I did spend 18 years as a USAF SP, and carried an M-16 (and later on as I earned some stripes) a GAU-5 (that's what we called an M-4 - kinda. I think these were developed in 'Nam for aircrew and K-9 handlers). Anyway, I was deeply familiar with the M-16/AR-15 family,

During the Clinton years, I bought a post-ban Bushmaster kinda sorta M-4. 16" barrel, collapsable stock, A-1 upper, no flash suppressor-for the outrageous sum of $800! It was a pretty good rifle, but the muzzle blast from that bare barreled beast was horrible! After a couple of years, I traded it off for something, don't even remember what.

Caught the battle rifle bug again a few months back. I had picked up an SKS years ago, and still had that in my gun safe. I actually kinda thought the SKS was a helluva "aww sh$t gun"...simple, reliable, built to operate under extreme circumstances...and I didn't have to worry about magazines.

Long story short, after seeing what they want for AR's in 2011...at least a grand around here...I looked at the AK's. Bought a Yugo AK paratrooper with the underfolding stock. Gun and two mags for just over $500. I am well pleased. Yup, stamped metal reciever, parkarized finished, kinda cheap plastic fore end, but suprisingly accurate and totally reliable. I certainly do not feel underarmed with this rifle. At half the price of an AR.
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Old 02-23-2011, 10:50 AM   #2
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Re: Former AR Snob Now Happy AK Owner

But isn't it sacreligious to have a combloc anything?
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Old 02-23-2011, 11:31 AM   #3
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Re: Former AR Snob Now Happy AK Owner

Durn sure used to be! I'm positive that was a lot of my "prejudice" against AK's. But this one is kinda sorta half american from what I understand. So I can still say the Pledge of Allegiance in good conscience.
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Re: Former AR Snob Now Happy AK Owner

Picked up a WASR-10 in early summer, 2009. It isn't a pretty gun. The wood is actually a laminate and looks like it was made from a pallet that saw heavy use sometime during the Eisenhower Administration but I will say one thing; it goes "BANG!" on demand and it is pretty accurate.
I also have an AR which I like as well. Sorta odd .... both guns intended as military guns but obviously by people who had very different philosophies of what such a gun should be.
There certainly is nothing wrong with the AK type and many people prefer the 7.62 x 39 cartridge over the 5.56mm.

Good luck with the Yugo underfolder, Irishcop!
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I've been fighting the temptation to get the sidefolder (Yugo? Romanian?) with the forward-leaning foregrip. The times I've handled it, that little foregrip feels right with a kind-of "halfway" grasp. There's that pesky money thing, though.
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IrishCop, did you get to check out that shop in Athens I mentioned to you?
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...Sorta odd .... both guns intended as military guns but obviously by people who had very different philosophies of what such a gun should be.
There certainly is nothing wrong with the AK type and many people prefer the 7.62 x 39 cartridge over the 5.56mm.

Good luck with the Yugo underfolder, Irishcop!
So far, so good Tommy. I really appreciate the simplicity and robustness of the design, now. Like you said...it goes bang every time.

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I've been fighting the temptation to get the sidefolder (Yugo? Romanian?) with the forward-leaning foregrip. The times I've handled it, that little foregrip feels right with a kind-of "halfway" grasp. There's that pesky money thing, though.
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IrishCop, did you get to check out that shop in Athens I mentioned to you?
No, Shep. Not long after we talked, I had a medical setback, so my day trips have been limited. Bt it's on my agenda!
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Old 02-25-2011, 09:35 AM   #7
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Well, hurry up!! There's guns to be fondled--er, checked out!
Have you tried Hoppe's #9 on that staph?
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Well, hurry up!! There's guns to be fondled--er, checked out!
Have you tried Hoppe's #9 on that staph?

Urethra! Uhhh....Aretha! Uhhh...Aw hell, y'all know what I mean. Why haven't I thought of that? Hoppe's does fix everything!

And don't worry...where there's guns to fondle, I'll be there!
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Old 03-21-2015, 11:36 AM   #9
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THREAD RESURRECT!!!
I finally got my AK! It's a WASR 10/63, and it's right & tight! Heavy park finish, normal magazine well looseness, so mags go in and out easily and (of course! totally reliable. Sights are almost dead on, only requiring a bit of hold-off to ring the plates at 100yd. It came with standard wood furniture, but I put a Tapco sidefolder and Romanian 'Donkey Dong' forend on it. I also got a Dremel tool and cut a bolt hold-open notch on the safety.

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Fun stuff!!
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Great for zombie apocalypses too!!!!!
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Especially when 7.62x39 is even cheaper than 5.56/.223!
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Old 03-23-2015, 08:48 AM   #13
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Congrats, Pete! She looks great!
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Old 03-23-2015, 08:58 AM   #14
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Thanks! Is AK; no problem.
I've always been partial to 'service-grade' arms; I can't afford guns that can't be used hard if necessary. Besides, this is what I've always understood an AK to be; a bit rough but utterly reliable, so I am not fired up about 'high-end' AKs. To my surprise there are indeed AK snobs.
Despite past problems, WASRs are well-made rifles. From my reading, Century Arms got their problems worked out around '08, so these are IMO, the best AK value on the market.
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Speaking of Century getting their act together, I've been tempted recently by this latest iteration of the Centurion 39: milled receiver, chrome-lined barrel, Tapco trigger group and adjustable rear sights. It gets pretty good reviews and the price ain't bad. There's an online video where Century submitted one for a thousand-round torture test (along with 1000 rounds of ammo and thirty-four brand-new mags.) The one tested had a plastic forend, which was partially melted at the end of the test, but the rifle held up just fine.

It might inspire a little disgust on Charlie's part, but perhaps the fact that it's an all-American-made ripoff of the Godless Commie design might make him feel just a tiny bit better.

https://www.classicfirearms.com/cent...blacklaminated
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I have a lightly accessorized Stag M4gery and a similarly augmented WASR-10.

They both co-exist quite amicably in my safe.
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But isn't it sacreligious to have a combloc anything?
I acquired a pre-ban Norinco SKS with all matching numbers and folding bayonet before the AWB. I was paranoid enough to remove the blade until 2004. The blade makes a halfway useable unipod. I ran across a rear housing with a built in scope mount and 4x scope for a few dollars and bought it. It lives peaceably in my safe with my Bushmaster so détente can work at times. Of course it's badly outnumbered by a number of other American firearms.

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Old 03-23-2015, 06:31 PM   #18
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As far as Century goes, my Yugo (well, the gas block said Made in Yugoslavia) I was quite happy with it. The Tapco trigger is really pretty good. As I said in another post, I put a set of night sights on it, and eventually gave it to my son-in-law.

Sar Major, I have a Chinese SKS in my gun safe, and an old cloth assault pack bag stuffed with loaded stripper clips. Like I said, I think it's a pretty neat SHTF weapon.
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Nice Rig Pete.The foregrip is that wood are the bakelite material?I have heard that you hammer enough rounds down an AK and I mean enough to wear a barrel she will start to "burp".
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The foregrip is wood laminate. Would that I live long enough to wear the trigger sear down that far. I have accidentally quick-fired pairs as I got used to the trigger.
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