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Old 06-06-2009, 06:39 PM   #21
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Re: low budget semi-auto ideas, please?

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You wrote: "Stay away from the Daewoo. They're hella cool, but replacement parts are simply unavailable anywhere."


I question if you've ever had a Daewoo to base your opinion on. It has got to be one of the finest .556 rifles out there. There are replacement parts available now, although the rifle does not break. It is a quality proven rifle.

I have a daewoo K2 that would be my first choice if I had to "grab one", and my collection would stun most here. The Daewoo is a quality piece. I have no problem betting my life on this rifle.
What part of "hella cool" did you not understand?

If you've found a source of replacement Daewoo parts, please share with the rest of us!
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Old 06-06-2009, 06:57 PM   #22
 
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Re: low budget semi-auto ideas, please?

daewoorifleparts.com as well as the online auction sites. There are several FCG parts that AR15 parts will work.

I know several friends with Daewoos with many thousands of rounds through them and not one part has ever broken or needed to be replaced. I read the forums and the things just do not break.

For a cheap SHTF (whatever that is) rifle, I probably agree an AR 15 or AK is the way to go, If I had to grab one from MY collection and run (for whatever reason) it's my Daewoo K2.

I shoot my K2 with no concern that it will break. It is one Hell of a rifle.
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Old 06-07-2009, 03:10 AM   #23
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Re: low budget semi-auto ideas, please?

SHTF--"Stuff" Hits The Fan

I'm with Snake45; parts would be the breaker on a Daewoo. Any firearm can have parts break or simply wear out; for example, are springs or magazines fairly easy to come by?

I read a very positive review of a Daewoo rifle years ago by Chuck Taylor. With the import bans of the '90s, they dried up. Sad because I really liked what I heard about them
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Re: low budget semi-auto ideas, please?

Magazines for the Daewoo are the same for the M16/15. All my .556 use (or can use) M16 mags. Springs I believe are the same as the AR 15. There are aftermarket firing pins and extractors for the Daewoo. I can't imagine what else would break or need replacing.

Are the parts as common as the AR or AK? Heck no. But even if parts break on one of these when your life is on the line you're mostly likely not going to be in a position where you’re going to have the spare part with you.

To each their own, and if you have to have concern about your rifle breaking then I say find another rifle.

In reality I admit, as I have stated many times over, I do not have great concern on "grabbing" the right rifle. I know I will die in front of my gun safe trying to decide at the time which firearm would be right for the situation.
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In reality I admit, as I have stated many times over, I do not have great concern on "grabbing" the right rifle. I know I will die in front of my gun safe trying to decide at the time which firearm would be right for the situation.
That is probably the greatest risk for gun nuts. That may be exactly what the anti's are counting on.

If a 'real' Daewoo rifle weren't so expensive due to the ban, I would love one. I have always favored to the compactness of a folding stock. While I'm partial to piston gas actions, it's very unlikely that I'd shoot a rifle enough to benefit from the difference over the impingement system. The folding stock, though...

As far as the pistol, again I have read good things, and it's the ROK issue I believe. That "floppy" hammer just bugs me, but that's just my impression and not a knock of the pistol.
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Old 07-25-2009, 06:09 AM   #26
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Re: low budget semi-auto ideas, please?

An SKS seems to fit the bill. I've had several, and they do nicely. I think the Russian SKS has a friction-fit safety (if that's an issue), but finding a Ruskie is pretty tough (and spendy) right now.
There MIGHT be an alternative - if you put the word out and someone may be looking to sell firearms due to the economic situation, they MAY be willing to lower selling price. IF you can find someone willing to part with an M1 carbine (one that works!), it could sell for a reasonable amount ($500) depending on the condition. A tough order to fill, but IF you can find one, those little hummers can dish out some reasonable punishment (soft point or especially HP's) that just about anyone, especially recoil shy individuals, can handle easily. I read some years back using Winchester hollowpoints in the .30 M1 at close range left a wound comparable to a .41 Magnum! OUCH!!! Again, finding an M1 may be too much to expect, BUT if one shows up, give it consideration and see if it would serve your specific needs.
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I read some years back using Winchester hollowpoints in the .30 M1 at close range left a wound comparable to a .41 Magnum! OUCH!!! Again, finding an M1 may be too much to expect, BUT if one shows up, give it consideration and see if it would serve your specific needs.
I have an M1 carbine loaded with factory hollowpoints (I forget which brand) as my primary "house gun," and don't feel the least bit undergunned. If I need heavier artillery than that, it should at least buy me the time to break out something bigger.
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Old 07-25-2009, 11:31 AM   #28
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Re: low budget semi-auto ideas, please?

If you have the cash I'd say go for an AK type, especially if you already stock x39, which I am sure most of us here do. If cash is short SKS would be next.
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Re: low budget semi-auto ideas, please?

OR

Buy a Glock 17, stock up on mags and ammo, then use it to get a rifle when you really need one.
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Re: low budget semi-auto ideas, please?

I agree with Snake on the M1 Carbine. Loaded with the right ammo, it is an excellent home defense and SHTF rifle. Of course, whatever SHTF "is", I am assuming it is more for defense than anything else.

I also like for real low cost the SKS in original form.
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Re: low budget semi-auto ideas, please?

mini 14 also the m1carbine .sks. my wife likes my ar15a2 because
i wont give her my xm77 building a retro a1 now and
she is making plans for it i have her
totally hooked
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Re: low budget semi-auto ideas, please?

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An SKS seems to fit the bill. I've had several, and they do nicely. I think the Russian SKS has a friction-fit safety (if that's an issue), but finding a Ruskie is pretty tough (and spendy) right now.
There MIGHT be an alternative - if you put the word out and someone may be looking to sell firearms due to the economic situation, they MAY be willing to lower selling price. IF you can find someone willing to part with an M1 carbine (one that works!), it could sell for a reasonable amount ($500) depending on the condition. A tough order to fill, but IF you can find one, those little hummers can dish out some reasonable punishment (soft point or especially HP's) that just about anyone, especially recoil shy individuals, can handle easily. I read some years back using Winchester hollowpoints in the .30 M1 at close range left a wound comparable to a .41 Magnum! OUCH!!! Again, finding an M1 may be too much to expect, BUT if one shows up, give it consideration and see if it would serve your specific needs.
I ended up finding an Underwood carbine. I forget exactly what I paid for it. I think something like $500 an a .357. haha. I've been meaning to get a Lee bullet resizer (.30 and a box or two of the 115gr speer gold dots (I think they're like .312dia IIRC) and make some HP's. I told my buddy about that, and he was all about it, and put an order in.

I've always thought the M1carbine was a just about perfect defense weapon. Its small, light, doesn't kick, and when used with the right ammo, and within its range, its much better than a pistol. Easier to control. I think the trouble comes when people start thinking its a long range high powered deer rifle. It ain't. Its pretty much a long pistol with a stock. So now I have 2 carbines, and I like em both.
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I've always thought the M1carbine was a just about perfect defense weapon. Its small, light, doesn't kick, and when used with the right ammo, and within its range, its much better than a pistol. Easier to control. I think the trouble comes when people start thinking its a long range high powered deer rifle. It ain't. Its pretty much a long pistol with a stock. So now I have 2 carbines, and I like em both.
I thought so also, for years...until I came across the SU16...newgunitis? Nah...I really, really did need a cute, folding stock semi-auto 5.56 that was several hundred dollars cheaper than an AR.

Like every other gun-owner, I'm practical. I don't buy guns unless I have a true need for them.

Did I mention that I can quit any time I want to???
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Old 10-22-2009, 06:03 AM   #34
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Re: low budget semi-auto ideas, please?

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I've always thought the M1carbine was a just about perfect defense weapon. Its small, light, doesn't kick, and when used with the right ammo, and within its range, its much better than a pistol. Easier to control.
Agree 100%. And another "plus" about the carbine is, you can cast hard bullets for them, and run them nearly at full speed out of the carbine. Makes for shooting at the price of .22 rimfire.

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Re: low budget semi-auto ideas, please?

There's a local place tha sells pretty hard cast bullets. I talked to him at a gun show, and he didn't know how fast his bullets would go before they lead barrels.
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The important thing, is that they are sized to .310". If they are fairly hard and sized to .310", you will be fine.

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