bearcat6

I just bought a Stg 44 clone in .22 long rifle on a gunbroker auction. I really didn't want to pay that much for a .22 but I couldn't resist. Here's a link to the auction. STG-44 Semi-Auto 22 Long Rifle by GSG Sports *New* : Semi Auto Rifles at GunBroker.com

Javlin

If she functions well I thing you did good @ $529 Nice looking rifle and crate layout

Kevin Gibson

For a .22lr, the cool factor is off the chart. Congrats.

ExSarge

Links are 404ing (Not Found)? They go offline or out of business?

Javlin

Here's a clip from a gun show Sarge.Bearcat shot that thing yet?thoughts?

Snake45

There's a writeup on this in the new (11/20) issue of Shotgun News.

I was lusting for one until I read the benchrest performance: 1.5" groups with SV ammo, @ 2" with hi-vel, at 25 yards. Good heavens, I have several .22 pistols that will shoot better than that from standing Weaver, and a LOT better benched. I'd consider 1.5-2" benched groups to be on the low end of mediocre at 50 yards from a .22 semiauto rifle. My $90 Norinco JW-14 SKS/G43 lookalike will do better than that. So will my old Jager .22 AK.

Kevin Gibson

If it’s any consolation, it’s been my observation that many American’s shoot traditional open sights rather poorly due to some fundamental misunderstanding of how to wring accuracy out of that type of sight. Europeans have no problem with it at all, but American’s whine like mad when you give them an open sight. So I find myself wondering about the shooting proficiency of the evaluator.

It’s not easy to make a semi-auto .22lr rifle that inaccurate. There is very little barrel vibration that goes on, and a simple blow back mechanism is an aid to accuracy, not a hindrance. Now it could be that they’re trying to do something goofy with a tensioned barrel or some such nonsense; but that’s not very likely. AR-7’s have goofy barrels and they shoot as well or better at 25 yards; most would do 2”-3” at 50 yards. It could also be that the sights were loose and the evaluator didn’t catch it. But honestly, 2” at 25 yards being the BEST it could do from a rested position out of a rifle…that’s a bit hard to swallow.

Javlin

I am with Kevin on this for the time being maybe Bearcat will chime in?I find it hard to believe a 22 that inaccurate mainly thinking harmonics here on the barrel.I guess it's a possibilty it could be a POS barrel or setup but even my old tube loader 22 from Sears(?) shoots accurate out to 100yds granted the barrel might be a couple inches longer.All I shoot is open sights so it's right up my alley just have not shot in awhile just keep making ammo.

Snake45

The new issue of GUNS magazine, which also came in today's mail, also has a writeup on the thing. Groups ran from 7/8" to 1 3/8", but the reviewer never got around to saying at what range he shot these groups. If they were at 50 yards, that's very creditable performance. If they were at 25, not so much--but these numbers would be in line with the Shotgun News results.

Snake45

Same issue has a writeup on the new Umarex .22 Uzi from the same author. Groups from this one were even worse and were specified as being shot at 25 yards, so absent further evidence I'm assuming the other ones were, too.

Javlin

WOW ! all these reports coming in the same I will have to opt out for one unless we hear from Bearcat otherwise. shucks

and the Umarex was worse?

Snake45

Umarex Uzi's BEST 25 yard group was 1 1/4", worst was 2 7/8". I can shoot most of my .22 rifles offhand better than that.

In my experience, just about any .22 rifle should be able to bust 1/2"--or no worse than 5/8"--at 25 yards with at least one brand of cheap, plinker-grade ammo. One of my worst is a 1:12 AR-15 with the USGI M261 conversion, and even it will hang around an inch or just over at 25 yards.

bearcat6

It will be sometime until I will be able to get to the range with this thing but I will report when I do. I hope it's more accurate than people are reporting.

Kevin Gibson

MAN, seems like they would have had to go out of their way to make a rifle that inaccurate. Were they trying to make General Kalashnikov feel good or something?

Javlin

Awe shoot Bearcat just set it up in the backyard and claim you were shooting a giant attack size squirrel. I had a kid who worked for me said the squirrels in that neck of the woods made ours look like dwarfs.

bearcat6

Here's a range report on the STG 44. It shoots good enough for me. This target was shot at 50 yards with bulk Federal ammo, I had two ftf in 50 rounds. The horizontal stringing was from making sight adjustments. The one hole in the center is from a full 25 round mag fired pretty rapidly. By the way I found out the STG will accept an H&K claw mount.

Javlin

That looks good from this end Bearcat and I bet with practice and better ammo 2" and smaller groups @100.Looks like a keeper .Any feed issues?(got it ftf=fail to feed)I see were Aim has had some of these Stg44 might be looking that way.Also saw a vid on the net for 15yds and the gun sounded really quiet is that the case?Anyway thanks for the range report Sir

bearcat6

I was wearing ear plugs and I usually shoot centerfires so I don't know if it was specially quiet I wasn't paying much attention to noise. It's really fun to shoot though and it weighs a ton for a .22 so i'ts ver pleasant to shoot.

Kevin Gibson

Bearcat,

Sounds like a winner to me; congratulations!!

IrishCop

Alright you guys, stop it!! Looks like I know what I am going to do when (if?) I get a tax refund next year.

I'm glad I ain't never been hypnotized. I am apparently extremely susceptible to suggestion.