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Old 04-26-2005, 04:24 PM   #1
 
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AR Beta C 100 rd mag

Do they work reliably? Is this a toy that won't be used much like the ak 75 round drums for the ak's; too heavy and loud and jiggling and clicking from side to side making you think your wearing out the mag catch.
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Old 04-27-2005, 05:59 AM   #2
 
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Re: AR Beta C 100 rd mag

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Do they work reliably?
No.
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Is this a toy that won't be used much
Use them if you want to practice your clearance drills.......
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Old 04-28-2005, 12:00 AM   #3
 
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I have to respectfully disagree. In my experience, the Beta Mags are very reliable. I've never had one problem with the two I own, and neither have my friends who own them.
But...I won't preach long and hard about how wonderful or necessary they are. Using one can be fun, if you've just got to burn through 100 rounds without stopping to reload. Of course, this also will rapidly accelerate barrel wear. Except in some extreme case, perhaps some special applications with a full auto weapon, I'd say you'd be much better served spending the money on conventional 20 or 30 round mags, and extra ammo. While they're kinda neat and they have a high gee-whiz factor, I don't believe they're practical.
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Old 04-28-2005, 12:35 PM   #4
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FWIW: The US Army's experience with testing the C-Mag is not positive. Soon after the invasion of Afghanistan, 2,000 C-Mags were purchased and issued to selected units for testing. Since then, TACOM has issued two Ground Precautionary Messages (GPM-02-007 and GPM-02-017) recommending that the C-Mag not be used outside of training.

Separately, the Army's Test & Evaluation Command published the following in Test Record Number S-51340 (Feb. 2003):

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The C-Mag is not suitable for use in training. The C-Mag demonstrated low reliability, poor durability, poor ergonomics, and resulted in a significant increase in weight for the same combat load (pg 2).
In July 2003, Wexford Group International (on behalf of the Army's Rapid Equipping Force) conducted tests on the C-Mag with the 82nd Airborne at Kandahar Airfield in Afghanistan. The results were once again negative.
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Old 04-28-2005, 12:47 PM   #5
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I have one I got for free that has not given me a bit of problem (I bought an AR15 off a guy that was needing cash and turned around after taking the Beta-C off the gun and sold it for more than I gave the guy for the whole package).

I have even loaded mine with the NATEC polymer shells and not had problems with function.

I think that they are an item you either swear by or swear at!
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Old 06-02-2005, 03:55 AM   #6
 
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I have one & shot about 500rd thru it only have one jam. On the other hand my 30rd USGI mags also jam more than that. So, I think it is quite reliable!
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