new us army rifle

csmkersh · 12-13-2018, 06:19 PM

Quote:

The U.S. Army is eyeing a new assault rifle that can rip through body armor with the power of a battle tank.

A lineup of Next Generation Squad Automatic Rifles (NGSAR) are expected to be in troops hands as soon as 2022, according to The Military Times.

The 6.8mm rifles not only pack greater force, but also feature improved precision from greater distances and are also able to handle all-weather and terrain encountered by soldiers.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...re_article-top

TommyGunn · 12-13-2018, 07:28 PM

Methinks I doth detect some hyperbole in that quote .... the battle tank stuff, perhapseth?

csmkersh · 12-14-2018, 05:49 AM

We forget Newton's Third Law at our peril.

CaptainGyro · 12-14-2018, 08:08 AM

It appears that the new round will be a CTC (cased telescoped cartridge):

https://www.janes.com/article/83753/...-systems-ngsws

William R. Moore · 12-14-2018, 11:08 AM

Squad automatic weapon isn't the M16/M4. OK, I might buy that as a M249 replacement. Wonder who, if anyone, will make the rifle replacement?

What, pray tell, is a telescoped cartridge? As distinguished from the telescopic cartrige noted. I do know what a telescoped bolt is, wonder if the author does? I too have to doubt the claimed massive destructive power.

WaltGraham · 12-14-2018, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by William R. Moore

What, pray tell, is a telescoped cartridge?

I too was curious.

"Telescoped ammunition is an ammunition design in which the projectile is partially or completely enveloped by the propellant. Examples include ammunition for both hand weapons and artillery. Some telescoped ammunition is also caseless.

Telescoped ammunition has advantages in comparison with traditional ammunition cartridges. Telescoped ammunition cartridges can have reduced overall length with similar ballistics to a comparable mass traditional round. Also, telescopic cartridges may avoid the risk of damage to the projectile during the loading process."

Source

CaptainGyro · 12-14-2018, 02:17 PM

Kevin posted about this back in February:

https://gunhub.com/gun-talk/65338-us...s-h-k-m27.html

Charlie Petty · 12-15-2018, 08:11 AM

I thought the telescoping case went out with the Nagant revolver

csmkersh · 12-15-2018, 01:27 PM

They probably should have, Charlie.

12-14-2018, 08:08 AM	#4
CaptainGyro Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Greater Waxhaw Metropolitan Area Posts: 1,721	It appears that the new round will be a CTC (cased telescoped cartridge): https://www.janes.com/article/83753/...-systems-ngsws Last edited by CaptainGyro; 12-14-2018 at 08:11 AM.

12-14-2018, 11:08 AM	#5
William R. Moore Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,533	Squad automatic weapon isn't the M16/M4. OK, I might buy that as a M249 replacement. Wonder who, if anyone, will make the rifle replacement? What, pray tell, is a telescoped cartridge? As distinguished from the telescopic cartrige noted. I do know what a telescoped bolt is, wonder if the author does? I too have to doubt the claimed massive destructive power. Last edited by William R. Moore; 12-14-2018 at 11:10 AM.

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csmkersh Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 10,764	We forget Newton's Third Law at our peril.

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csmkersh Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 10,764	They probably should have, Charlie.