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Ruger M77 stainless .270 1 14.29%
Tikka stainless .270 1 14.29%
Ruger M77 stainless .308 4 57.14%
Tikka stainless .270 1 14.29%
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Old 04-09-2005, 07:37 AM   #1
 
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.270 or .308 stainless bolt action (poll)

I'm looking for either a .308 or .270 bolt action in stainless. I have narrowed it down to Ruger M77 and Tika light. I have heard of kabooms with stainless Tikka's and they a couple hundred more than the Rugers. Also does a .308 have a lot more kick than a .270? Your opinions are welcomed!
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How about "None of the above," and check the Savage Weather Warrior in either .270 or .308 Win.
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How about "None of the above,"
I agree on the none of the above.. but then I'd reccomend a Remington
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The Remington would be a good choice, but the Savage is an excellant value. FWIW, I think I'll be ordering a Remington 700 CDL in .243. That'll give me a short action for re-barreling into a .308 Win.
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Old 04-09-2005, 01:52 PM   #5
 
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none of the above

Winchester M70.stainless steel...308!!!
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Ruger/savage/weatherby vangaurd woud be my choices. Win guns do not fit me well and I hate the safety(and the new ruger safety).
I do not like the 270 but I do like the 308 and the recoil is not much.
Savage and weatherby have package deals with a cheap scope but you can pull the scope and put a leupold/burris on it and you already have the mounts/rings. Weatherby garrentees the gun to shoot 1.5" or less at 100yds and include a target shot by the gun.The vangaurd is priced low also and the action/barrel is made by howa and is good. Savage is a sleeper as it will generally outshoot the win/rem/ruger guns out of the box and the have the package deal also.

Get 308

MY 2 CENTS
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Old 04-10-2005, 11:28 AM   #7
 
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Thanks for the info guys. I will take a look at the Savage but always felt they were a notch below Ruger.

Still would like to know how the .308 recoil differs from a .270.
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Speaking in generalities because grain weight of bullet and powder charge will influence felt recoil as well as the weight of the rifle and mechanism, bolt action vs. gas operated semi auto, for instance. What I can say is that the .270 is a necked down 30-06. You have more powder to burn than a .308 and a bullet that will be about the same weight. IMHO a .270 in a bolt action rifle will have more felt recoil than a .308 in the same weight and action rifle.
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Old 04-12-2005, 03:06 PM   #9
 
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Not disagreeing with Boone but throwing down my .02

To my shoulder the one .308 rifle I fired had more recoil than the 2 or 3 in .270 that i have shot. But not enough of a difference that I would let that make my decision.

How I would decide which caliber to buy is to look at how I would use it. If you do a lot of plinking, buy the .308 because there is an enormous amount of 308 FMJ surplus around. If you use it all for 'business' that wouldn't be a factor. I believe .270 is flatter shooting if you do more open plains stuff but I would expect that .308 would have more punch. I am no expert and haven't done much research on either so take that with a grain of salt.

For rifles you cannot go wrong with Tikka. The recalled rifles will not be on a dealers shelf so that would not be a concern. I say with confidence that an off the shelf Tikka will shoot better than an off the shelf Rem or Ruger (not trying to start an argument guys I swear). The owner adjustable triggers are top notch. Especially tuned down to 2 lbs which they will do safely.

Where I shop they cost about the same as a Ruger ($25-50 more) and ($100) less than a Remington but if they are $200 more where you are I would probably think twice. Rugers are quality and Savage is even better. My list of out of those mentioned would go Tikka, Savage, Rem, Ruger. But they are all very good when it comes down to it.
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Thanks for the info guys. I will take a look at the Savage but always felt they were a notch below Ruger.

Still would like to know how the .308 recoil differs from a .270.
If you check here you'll find the .270 with the same weight bullet will have slight greater velocity AND recoil. Not enough to matter except to the recoil sensitive shooter. If either bother you, then perhaps the .257 Roberts would be a better choice.
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A 270win will recoil just a tiny bit more than a 308win in equivalent weight guns. When you compare the 270 to the 308 you really should be comparing the 130gr 270 bullets to the 150gr 308 bullets, they're more alike in ballistics (the bullets, not the loads).
My 7lbs (with scope) T3 Lite recoils the same as my friend's scoped 270 Rem 700 ADL synthetic, no doubt because of the weight difference. I think his is 7.5 lbs unscoped, add 12-16 oz for his 3-9x40mm..

I have a Tikka T3 Lite in 308Win. If you've ever handled one you'd know why they cost just a little bit more than equivalent M77's, M70's, and 700's. The parts are all perfectly machined and match up very well. Mine had almost 100% lug contact out of the box.
It consistently shoots 0.75MOA or smaller three shot groups with any premium hunting ammo and 0.5MOA groups are not uncommon. 168gr Black Hilla BTHP Match will shoot 0.3-0.5MOA regularly.
Around here the T3s cost about $50-75 more than comparable models from the other companies.
With the short bolt lift, smooooooooth bolt throw, crisp adjustable trigger (2-4 lbs), great fitting stock, and its light weight I cannot see why you'd want any other hunting rifle (unless you want to modify the heck out of it...then you should get a Savage or Rem).
They also have written accuracy guarantees of 1MOA 3 shot groups.
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