armscorp m14 serial numbers

Tommo · 02-16-2005, 08:50 PM

No problem Big Bore Lover, you were willing to go the extra $! Does anyone know when or what serial number range Armscorp changed the dimensions of their receiver to please Fulton Armory.

I have a couple in the 17,XXX range and they are harder to build rifles with than the 10,500 number receiver. The oprod lugway is much smaller requiring reducing of the oprod lug. Also, the cutout for the oprod spring guide is longer and this makes magazine insertion and removal harder. Just wish I could find another one in the 10,XXX serial range for sale!

GeoffM24 · 02-22-2005, 09:23 AM

I can now confirm that Armscorp did in fact create a custom numbered receiver for my local dealer. He paid an extra $50 to have them make one up with the same number as his Springfield Armory M14. They did place an "A" prior to the number though.

Different · 02-22-2005, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeoffM24

I can now confirm that Armscorp did in fact create a custom numbered receiver for my local dealer. He paid an extra $50 to have them make one up with the same number as his Springfield Armory M14. They did place an "A" prior to the number though.

Thank you, Sir! That will make the first edition of M14 Rifle History and Development. The book manuscript is about done.

PaladinFNFAL · 03-19-2005, 04:15 PM

Greetings,
Yes, ARMSCORP allowed custom serial #. Mine is A010000 and is engraved with my name and 4/11/89.I know the owner and the armorer and they fixed me up with the best parts. Shoots real nice....PaladinFNFAL

Mopar Lou · 03-22-2005, 06:56 PM

When I ordered my rifle, a rack grade, they said they weren't built until ordered.. I had an FFL back then, best I remember it took about a month to get it.. There was I think a 50 dollar additional charge if you wanted all matching parts, I didn't specify that.. but most if not all parts are H&R,, and all looked new unissued.. This was back when you got ALL GI parts.. With a scope and Federal Gold Medal Match, I have shot quite a few 1 1/2'' groups and a couple that were 1", even shot a 1 9/16" open sight group once, and now I wear bifocals... It doesn't like Lake City match though, and my handloads won't quite do as well as the factory Fed stuff, I have been extremely pleased with it .. At the time there was a magazine article that they sent a reprint of in their catalog, that showed their rack grade rifle would shoot with or better than Springfield Armory's match grade, That is why I chose it and I have never been sorry.. its only had about 400 rounds through it .. the serial no. is A00391X, I recieved it on 4-17-89, its in a factory tiger stripe GI fiberglass stock. I recently e-mailed them, because back then they were supposed to send you a copy of the heat treat specs on your reciever, and they forgot to include it and thought I would like to have it.. they said that after a Move or merger or something, they didn't have records that far back now...

Tommo · 05-04-2005, 05:15 AM

Received this from RA Parts for Armscorp:

serial manufacture
number date

15906 01/05/00

17011 07/10/03

17013 07/10/03

Different · 05-05-2005, 01:52 AM

updated

monster 14 · 05-16-2005, 09:38 PM

just picked mine up about 2 weeks a go used sn A 343x lowest ive seen of the replys is that a good thing or a bad thing?

M1 Tanker · 06-13-2005, 09:28 AM

I helped Armscorp out from the end of 02 until about May of 03. Those receivers from 16950 to about 17025 I engraved, deburred, parked, milled on, etc... I also did a few of the Fulton ones....like FA0101 thru like 10 I think...its been awhile.

Those were all made about Feb-April 03.

boomer · 06-16-2005, 08:20 AM

Armscorp is 1577X, bought this as a receiver from a member here.
Don't know when it was made.

It's a all TRW now :P .

Different · 06-16-2005, 03:26 PM

updated and edited

Also, we might as well start a database for Fulton Armory receivers. So, chime in if you have a Fulton Armory receiver.

TIA,

Different

Mithrandir · 07-06-2005, 12:28 PM

OK...here are mine

1622x receiver only standard
1623x receiver only standard
DMR03xx receiver only rear lugged

all marked as “7.62 MM M14 NM”

But I don't know when they were made... my armorer had them in stock when I had the rifle(s) built. I will try to glean that info and add to this post later

out...

Different · 07-06-2005, 02:36 PM

Thanks, Mithrandir. Serial number list updated 07-06-05.

imadazhell · 08-06-2005, 08:28 AM

Armscorp #16684 complete rifle purchased used 6/2005
Marked with M14 NM on heel but no extra lug.

Different · 08-06-2005, 08:42 AM

imadazhell, based on previous reports, your Armscorp M14 NM receiver was probably made in 2002.

boomer · 09-25-2005, 05:43 AM

Lee,
Got another Armscorp reciever , 1594X ( now all Winny) to go along with 1577X (all TRW). just wondering why the lettering on the 1594X is alot deeper than on 1577X ? Looks like being that close on numbers they would be about the same.

Different · 09-25-2005, 06:16 AM

boomer, congratulations on the new addition to the family.

You raise a good question. FWIW, here's a description (from my book) of how Valley Ordnance numbered the M1A receivers for Springfield Armory, Inc.:

" Receiver heel stamping machine - The receiver heel markings were made with a pneumatically operated machine using straight dies and a rolling fixture. The receiver was held by the fixture and rolled on a radius while the pneumatically operated ram holding the die stamped the heel. The first die stamped U S RIFLE and 7.62-mm M1A for receivers just under serial number 063000 or US RIFLE M1A for receivers over serial number 063000. The die was then changed so that the machine could stamp the brand name. Then the third die was installed in the machine to stamp the individual serial number."

boomer · 09-25-2005, 07:45 AM

Thanks for the info, Different.

Bolt2Bounce · 10-07-2005, 06:21 PM

Armscorp M-14 NM SN: 1598X
Armscorp M-14 NM SN: 1599X
Armscorp M-14 NM SN: 1615X
Armscorp M-14 NM SN: 1684X
From GPC or Sarco. about 1999-2000 around then I believe to be factory seconds...due to flaw's in casting and low price, very easy to build using GI parts. B2B

FAPeerless550 · 10-13-2005, 11:59 AM

FA up to 550 in August 05

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02-16-2005, 08:50 PM	#21
Tommo Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 359	No problem Big Bore Lover, you were willing to go the extra $! Does anyone know when or what serial number range Armscorp changed the dimensions of their receiver to please Fulton Armory. I have a couple in the 17,XXX range and they are harder to build rifles with than the 10,500 number receiver. The oprod lugway is much smaller requiring reducing of the oprod lug. Also, the cutout for the oprod spring guide is longer and this makes magazine insertion and removal harder. Just wish I could find another one in the 10,XXX serial range for sale!

02-22-2005, 09:23 AM	#22
GeoffM24 Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 135	I can now confirm that Armscorp did in fact create a custom numbered receiver for my local dealer. He paid an extra $50 to have them make one up with the same number as his Springfield Armory M14. They did place an "A" prior to the number though.

03-19-2005, 04:15 PM	#24
PaladinFNFAL Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1	Greetings, Yes, ARMSCORP allowed custom serial #. Mine is A010000 and is engraved with my name and 4/11/89.I know the owner and the armorer and they fixed me up with the best parts. Shoots real nice....PaladinFNFAL

03-22-2005, 06:56 PM	#25
Mopar Lou Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 43	When I ordered my rifle, a rack grade, they said they weren't built until ordered.. I had an FFL back then, best I remember it took about a month to get it.. There was I think a 50 dollar additional charge if you wanted all matching parts, I didn't specify that.. but most if not all parts are H&R,, and all looked new unissued.. This was back when you got ALL GI parts.. With a scope and Federal Gold Medal Match, I have shot quite a few 1 1/2'' groups and a couple that were 1", even shot a 1 9/16" open sight group once, and now I wear bifocals... It doesn't like Lake City match though, and my handloads won't quite do as well as the factory Fed stuff, I have been extremely pleased with it .. At the time there was a magazine article that they sent a reprint of in their catalog, that showed their rack grade rifle would shoot with or better than Springfield Armory's match grade, That is why I chose it and I have never been sorry.. its only had about 400 rounds through it .. the serial no. is A00391X, I recieved it on 4-17-89, its in a factory tiger stripe GI fiberglass stock. I recently e-mailed them, because back then they were supposed to send you a copy of the heat treat specs on your reciever, and they forgot to include it and thought I would like to have it.. they said that after a Move or merger or something, they didn't have records that far back now...

05-04-2005, 05:15 AM	#26
Tommo Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 359	Received this from RA Parts for Armscorp: serial manufacture number date 15906 01/05/00 17011 07/10/03 17013 07/10/03

05-05-2005, 01:52 AM	#27
Different Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA Posts: 5,783	updated

05-16-2005, 09:38 PM	#28
monster 14 Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 31	just picked mine up about 2 weeks a go used sn A 343x lowest ive seen of the replys is that a good thing or a bad thing?

06-13-2005, 09:28 AM	#29
M1 Tanker Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 28	I helped Armscorp out from the end of 02 until about May of 03. Those receivers from 16950 to about 17025 I engraved, deburred, parked, milled on, etc... I also did a few of the Fulton ones....like FA0101 thru like 10 I think...its been awhile. Those were all made about Feb-April 03.

06-16-2005, 08:20 AM	#30
boomer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: henderson , ky Posts: 293	Armscorp is 1577X, bought this as a receiver from a member here. Don't know when it was made. It's a all TRW now :P .

06-16-2005, 03:26 PM	#31
Different Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA Posts: 5,783	updated and edited Also, we might as well start a database for Fulton Armory receivers. So, chime in if you have a Fulton Armory receiver. TIA, Different

07-06-2005, 12:28 PM	#32
Mithrandir Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 23	OK...here are mine 1622x receiver only standard 1623x receiver only standard DMR03xx receiver only rear lugged all marked as “7.62 MM M14 NM” But I don't know when they were made... my armorer had them in stock when I had the rifle(s) built. I will try to glean that info and add to this post later out...

07-06-2005, 02:36 PM	#33
Different Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA Posts: 5,783	Thanks, Mithrandir. Serial number list updated 07-06-05.

08-06-2005, 08:28 AM	#34
imadazhell Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 6	Armscorp #16684 complete rifle purchased used 6/2005 Marked with M14 NM on heel but no extra lug.

08-06-2005, 08:42 AM	#35
Different Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA Posts: 5,783	imadazhell, based on previous reports, your Armscorp M14 NM receiver was probably made in 2002.

09-25-2005, 05:43 AM	#36
boomer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: henderson , ky Posts: 293	Lee, Got another Armscorp reciever , 1594X ( now all Winny) to go along with 1577X (all TRW). just wondering why the lettering on the 1594X is alot deeper than on 1577X ? Looks like being that close on numbers they would be about the same.

09-25-2005, 06:16 AM	#37
Different Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA Posts: 5,783	boomer, congratulations on the new addition to the family. You raise a good question. FWIW, here's a description (from my book) of how Valley Ordnance numbered the M1A receivers for Springfield Armory, Inc.: " Receiver heel stamping machine - The receiver heel markings were made with a pneumatically operated machine using straight dies and a rolling fixture. The receiver was held by the fixture and rolled on a radius while the pneumatically operated ram holding the die stamped the heel. The first die stamped U S RIFLE and 7.62-mm M1A for receivers just under serial number 063000 or US RIFLE M1A for receivers over serial number 063000. The die was then changed so that the machine could stamp the brand name. Then the third die was installed in the machine to stamp the individual serial number."

09-25-2005, 07:45 AM	#38
boomer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: henderson , ky Posts: 293	Thanks for the info, Different.

10-07-2005, 06:21 PM	#39
Bolt2Bounce Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 8	Armscorp M-14 NM SN: 1598X Armscorp M-14 NM SN: 1599X Armscorp M-14 NM SN: 1615X Armscorp M-14 NM SN: 1684X From GPC or Sarco. about 1999-2000 around then I believe to be factory seconds...due to flaw's in casting and low price, very easy to build using GI parts. B2B

10-13-2005, 11:59 AM	#40
FAPeerless550 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 2	FA up to 550 in August 05