hahn machine m14

OLDOG · 11-19-2014, 06:36 AM

Hello from Texas,

I have a chance to buy what I believe is a Hahn reweld M14. I was hoping some member might have the letter that allowed Hahn make the receiver and would be willing to send me a copy. I would be eternally grateful and would, of course, cover all expenses. Thanks

OLDOG

Kevin Gibson · 11-19-2014, 09:35 AM

OLDOG,

I once worked for a company that did quite the same thing with AR-10 receivers. We bought them in Portugal, shipped them to Canada and de-milled them per Canadian law which was saw cut into two pieces. From that point on, they were "parts" and could be shipped into the US. Once in the US, we re-welded the receivers together and we had AR-10's that actually said Armalite AR-10 on them. We made about 200 of those and I've never seen one since.

Anyhow, once welded back together that becomes a newly manufactured receiver and must contain the manufacturers information stamped, etched on the receiver. So that's your assurance of legality, a licensed manufacturer did indeed make the rifle, and there is a LOT of documentation showing it really happened and happened legally at one point. I want to say I read about it in one of the M14 books and there may even be a book with a photo of the letter.

It's a good idea to get a letter on a Hahn rifle as the re-weld thing has been contentious throughout time. I know companies that been given letters only to have ATF change their minds. I know guns have been confiscated at times. If confiscated (rightfully or wrongfully) you're quite unlikely to ever get the rifle back. The letter could save the confiscation. Best of luck to you sir. Get on the M14 forums and network around, someone will have a copy of that letter. I'm really surprised that it's not easily found on the internet. It would be in everyone's best interest to have a copy of that letter plastered EVERYWHERE.

OLDOG · 11-19-2014, 03:30 PM

Thanks for the quick response. I am surprised it is not published somewhere on the internet, also. If it is, I sure cannot find it. I kind of remembered reading a posting years back by a member called "Different" in which he said he had a copy. I did send him a private message a few days back, but so far, I have not had a response. I would like to have the rifle, but am a little hesitant in dropping the dollars without the letter in hand. I hope you contact me should you get a lead on it. OLDOG.

stand watie · 11-19-2014, 03:43 PM

OLDOG,

I know ZILCH about this subject BUT I wanted to welcome you to the board. = Nice to have another San Antonian here.

yours, sw
I'm in 78208

dfariswheel · 11-19-2014, 04:38 PM

One possible source on verified info is if you're an NRA member (and shame on you if you aren't) is to send a S.A.S.E. to the American Rifleman Dope Bag and ask them.
A benefit of NRA membership is to ask the Tech Staff questions.

The Tech staff will answer ONE question per letter and if there is such a letter in existence they'll almost certainly have it or know where to get it.

11-19-2014, 06:36 AM	#1
OLDOG Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 2	Owens letter to Hahn Machine Hello from Texas, I have a chance to buy what I believe is a Hahn reweld M14. I was hoping some member might have the letter that allowed Hahn make the receiver and would be willing to send me a copy. I would be eternally grateful and would, of course, cover all expenses. Thanks OLDOG

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11-19-2014, 09:35 AM	#2
Kevin Gibson Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Northern Nevada Posts: 5,678	OLDOG, I once worked for a company that did quite the same thing with AR-10 receivers. We bought them in Portugal, shipped them to Canada and de-milled them per Canadian law which was saw cut into two pieces. From that point on, they were "parts" and could be shipped into the US. Once in the US, we re-welded the receivers together and we had AR-10's that actually said Armalite AR-10 on them. We made about 200 of those and I've never seen one since. Anyhow, once welded back together that becomes a newly manufactured receiver and must contain the manufacturers information stamped, etched on the receiver. So that's your assurance of legality, a licensed manufacturer did indeed make the rifle, and there is a LOT of documentation showing it really happened and happened legally at one point. I want to say I read about it in one of the M14 books and there may even be a book with a photo of the letter. It's a good idea to get a letter on a Hahn rifle as the re-weld thing has been contentious throughout time. I know companies that been given letters only to have ATF change their minds. I know guns have been confiscated at times. If confiscated (rightfully or wrongfully) you're quite unlikely to ever get the rifle back. The letter could save the confiscation. Best of luck to you sir. Get on the M14 forums and network around, someone will have a copy of that letter. I'm really surprised that it's not easily found on the internet. It would be in everyone's best interest to have a copy of that letter plastered EVERYWHERE.

11-19-2014, 03:30 PM	#3
OLDOG Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 2	Thanks for the quick response. I am surprised it is not published somewhere on the internet, also. If it is, I sure cannot find it. I kind of remembered reading a posting years back by a member called "Different" in which he said he had a copy. I did send him a private message a few days back, but so far, I have not had a response. I would like to have the rifle, but am a little hesitant in dropping the dollars without the letter in hand. I hope you contact me should you get a lead on it. OLDOG.

11-19-2014, 03:43 PM	#4
stand watie Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 3,882	OLDOG, I know ZILCH about this subject BUT I wanted to welcome you to the board. = Nice to have another San Antonian here. yours, sw I'm in 78208

11-19-2014, 04:38 PM	#5
dfariswheel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,414	One possible source on verified info is if you're an NRA member (and shame on you if you aren't) is to send a S.A.S.E. to the American Rifleman Dope Bag and ask them. A benefit of NRA membership is to ask the Tech Staff questions. The Tech staff will answer ONE question per letter and if there is such a letter in existence they'll almost certainly have it or know where to get it.