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Old 01-30-2006, 04:02 PM   #1
 
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Socom 16 Problems

Help on a Socom 16, I bought a Socom 16 about 6 months ago, and
have already had two ejectors completely come apart. Has anyone one heard about this.
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Old 01-30-2006, 04:25 PM   #2
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If I were you I would call Springfield. I have called them on a few occasions and they took care of me.
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Old 01-30-2006, 04:34 PM   #3
 
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I already called, they had fixed the gun once and now it happen again after only 80 rounds. I.m not using reloads or old ammo.
I'm wondering if this is a bolt problem, or maybe a gas break
problem. I got no possible explanations from springfield except to
send it back again.
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Old 01-30-2006, 05:53 PM   #4
 
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It's probably just their ejector. I've got a few GI ones here. US armory has a bunch too and so does Fulton. Are you able to replace it yourself? If not then holler and I'll help you out.

I've had several problem child m1a ejectors and extractors in the shop lately. You should see the variance in the spring lengths!
For someone that builds such a fine rifle you'd think they's do something about that bolt.
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Old 01-30-2006, 09:21 PM   #5
 
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I appreciate the reply, are you saying that the bolt does need to be
replaced if when I get my gun back from Springfield that for a second time they did'nt do that.
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Old 01-30-2006, 11:58 PM   #6
 
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no, the bolt is PROBABLY OK. But you need to get a GI extractor. The SA Inc. extractors are known for failure.
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Old 01-31-2006, 04:12 AM   #7
 
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Correct. The bolts are fine. The problem with the extractors is the detent that holds the extractor plunger. Some are too deep and some are too shallow. The too shallow ones fly apart on their own adn the too deep ones like to break sometimes. The only problem I've seen with the ejectors are they are sometimes misshaped on the face and if you have a scope mount it could cause problems with the brass clearing on extraction. Also the springs are commonly too short or too long in both the extractor and ejector.
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Old 01-31-2006, 11:00 AM   #8
 
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It has been my experience that ejector problems are very rare but extractor problems are very common on the rifles with the SA Inc extractor.

If you are having extractor problems just replace their junk extractor with a USGI part and you everything will be fine.
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Old 01-31-2006, 11:06 AM   #9
 
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I'm not understanding why the ejector is coming apart and not the entire bolt...usually the extractor flies away and the bolt disassembles itself. If it is the entire bolt you might want to get a new spring guide. I have a SA inc bolt that would disassemble itself upon firing I switched out the spring guide to a KMT and the problem stopped. I compared the KMT to the spring guide I removed and the KMT's magazine latch plate was lower. The old spring guide would lock the magazines up too high in the rifle putting too much pressure on the bottom of the bolt. If you insert an empty mag in your SOCOM with the bolt closed you should barley feel the bolt drag on the top of the mag/follower as you retract the bolt...now press down on the bolt stop and ride the bolt forward...again only slight resistance. If you feel quite a bit of restistance the culprit is most likely the spring guide. HTH
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Old 01-31-2006, 11:33 AM   #10
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I think he meant to say extractor, not ejector, in his 1st post.
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Old 01-31-2006, 02:46 PM   #11
 
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Thanks for all the info people, I looked at the U.S Armory site, they
had USGI extractor kits for $22.50, does that sound right. I feel
that when I get the Socom back they will have just put in an extractor that will come apart again. If thats all they do cost makes you wonder why SA did'nt put them in to begin with. I live in Ca.
not a very gun freindly state.
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Old 01-31-2006, 03:50 PM   #12
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If thats all they do cost makes you wonder why SA did'nt put them in to begin with.
Because USGI extractors used to cost $8 instead of $22.

Ty
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Old 02-01-2006, 05:31 AM   #13
 
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As long as you keep sending the rifle back to these people you will keep getting it back with a junk extractor.

Buy some GI bolt parts and learn how to replace them yourself.

When your get your rifle back it takes a total of about two minutes to stick a GI extractor in it.

Do it and get it over with.
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Old 02-01-2006, 05:36 AM   #14
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As long as you keep sending the rifle back to these people you will keep getting it back with a junk extractor.

Buy some GI bolt parts and learn how to replace them yourself.

When your get your rifle back it takes a total of about two minutes to stick a GI extractor in it.

Do it and get it over with.
+1

As I understand it SAI has few if any GI parts.
The warranty is good for replacement barrels, stocks and receivers.
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Old 02-02-2006, 09:34 AM   #15
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Originally posted by Cornbread2:
As long as you keep sending the rifle back to these people you will keep getting it back with a junk extractor.

Buy some GI bolt parts and learn how to replace them yourself.

When your get your rifle back it takes a total of about two minutes to stick a GI extractor in it.

Do it and get it over with.
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