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Old 10-29-2005, 07:59 AM   #1
 
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question about fulton armory rifles

http://www.fulton-armory.com/MARifles.h ... Comp-Rifle

Can these rifles still fit in a usgi synthetic stock or are the barrels to heavy ?

also, lets see some pics of fulton m1a's
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Mine fit all my stocks but I had the standard barrel.

I'll post a pick when I get home, if I rember :P
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Old 10-29-2005, 10:02 AM   #3
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http://www.fulton-armory.com/MARifles.htm#FA-FFL-M14Comp-Rifle

Can these rifles still fit in a usgi synthetic stock or are the barrels to heavy ?

also, lets see some pics of fulton m1a's
All my M1A's wear Barnett HEAVY match barrels and they ALL sit in USGI fiberglass stocks. No worries
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Tuscan Son - thanks, thats what i was after.
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Isn't that kind of weird and unsuitable combination, a Quality Heavy Match Barrel and a flimsly, flexible USGI Synthetic Stock?

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Isn't that kind of weird and unsuitable combination, a Quality Heavy Match Barrel and a flimsly, flexible USGI Synthetic Stock?

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It would be, if USGI glass stocks were "flimsy" and "flexible"....

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My suppressed heavyweight barrel M1A in a USGI synthetic stock. Works for me.

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"It would be, if USGI glass stocks were "flimsy" and "flexible"...."

And they are....

I don't know of any high profile use of USGI Synthetic stocks in the area of HighPower Rifle when the M14 was widely used, and if someone INSISTED on using one, they were generally filled with something in the forearm to limit forearm flex as much as possible. McMillan Stocks are the generally accepted Synthetic Stocks for a heavy barrel M14 Rifle.

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I don't know of any high profile use of USGI Synthetic stocks in the area of HighPower Rifle when the M14 was widely used, and if someone INSISTED on using one, they were generally filled with something in the forearm to limit forearm flex as much as possible.
They still require less work than a wooden stock and are more dimensionally stable. Wood warps. Wood swells.

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McMillan Stocks are the generally accepted Synthetic Stocks for a heavy barrel M14 Rifle.
By whom and for what? Last I checked, McMillan stocks are not legal for Service Rifle. They certainly look more comfortable - with a more pronounced and thicker pistol grip, but beyond that....
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"Last I checked, McMillan stocks are not legal for Service Rifle. They certainly look more comfortable - with a more pronounced and thicker pistol grip, but beyond that...."

Wow,
I wonder why the Marine Corps, among others have used soooo many of the McMillan Synthetic Stocks for Service Rifle?

If that's your claim, I know that there's no way that you've ever shot Highpower Rifle.

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"Last I checked, McMillan stocks are not legal for Service Rifle. They certainly look more comfortable - with a more pronounced and thicker pistol grip, but beyond that...."

Wow,
I wonder why the Marine Corps, among others have used soooo many of the McMillan Synthetic Stocks for Service Rifle?
Most of the McMillan stocks aren't - and those were the ones I was thinking of. I didn't realize they offered an "issue" look-alike.

I don't find my USGI glass stock particularly flimsy at all - even under sling tension.... and its attached to a SAK medium weight barreled rifle, for what it's worth. Considering even the McMillan stocks require bedding, minor reinforcement of the forend on a USGI stock - if necessary - is certainly worth the difference in price....

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If that's your claim, I know that there's no way that you've ever shot Highpower Rifle.
What do the two have at ALL to do with one another? Is knowing the full product lineup of every gun parts company now a requirement before shooting a highpower match? Is that now a requirement for buying a heavy barrel in the first place?

Especially when I use an M1 for that purpose?

You were claiming earlier that a USGI glass stock is an unusual combination along with a match barrel. Quite a few people appear to disagree with that statement.
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The M14SE Crazy Horse (TM) rifles used by the U. S. Army 2nd Infantry Division have medium weight match grade barrels and USGI synthetic stocks.

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"It would be, if USGI glass stocks were "flimsy" and "flexible"...."

And they are....

I don't know of any high profile use of USGI Synthetic stocks in the area of HighPower Rifle when the M14 was widely used, and if someone INSISTED on using one, they were generally filled with something in the forearm to limit forearm flex as much as possible. McMillan Stocks are the generally accepted Synthetic Stocks for a heavy barrel M14 Rifle.

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gas_gunner,

Maybe in NE Ohio, but not where I live.

http://battlerifles.ambackforum.com/vie ... c&start=15

scroll down 4....

You see that rifle? That is an Armscorp receivered rifle in a USGI fiberglass stock, done by KARSTEN, with only a shimmed gas cylinder, A Badger Ordnance spring guide and a BARNETT HEAVY BARREL. 4 groove, 1:10 twist. Kit put together by Bill @ Smith Enterprise. It is far and away the most accurate of my 3 M1A's. That rifle as you see it there weighs about 14 lbs.

With that scope, and from a bench, that rifle CONSISTANTLY puts 3 rounds under a quarter @ 100yds. Unlike most people, I completely strip the rifle down after every range trip. Out of the stock, op rod out, bolt stripped, and gas system cleaned. None of that has affected the accurracy of this rifle one iota in about 2,000 rounds.
Stock/receiver/trigger group lock-up has remained TIGHT. While taking down M14 type rifles as frequently as I do, may affect the accuracy of some guns....there are no absolutes.

I do not shoot in matches, and don't care to. I only shoot milsurp ammo, and these are the honest results that this rifle will do. I did not set about to build match rifles, rather I wanted to keep them as militarily correct as I could. That's one reason for the scope I use, the Badger rings now on the rifle, and ARMS 18 mount.
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I do not shoot in matches, and don't care to. I only shoot milsurp ammo, and these are the honest results that this rifle will do. I did not set about to build match rifles, rather I wanted to keep them as militarily correct as I could. That's one reason for the scope I use, the Badger rings now on the rifle, and ARMS 18 mount.
Well, to be honest, any flexibility in the forearm of the stock will not show up from a bench - only under sling tension.
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I do not shoot in matches, and don't care to. I only shoot milsurp ammo, and these are the honest results that this rifle will do. I did not set about to build match rifles, rather I wanted to keep them as militarily correct as I could. That's one reason for the scope I use, the Badger rings now on the rifle, and ARMS 18 mount.
Well, to be honest, any flexibility in the forearm of the stock will not show up from a bench - only under sling tension.
Well, there you go! If I was a match shooter, and used a sling, I would have thought about that. The point I was making is that you CAN have a rifle in a "flimsy, unstable" GI plastic stock which gets exceptional accuracy because of the barrel. I like the heavy weight barrels simply because of that...the weight. Just so happens that they are cheaper and easier to find than GI barrels too. He seems to me like another guy who scoffs at other people who have different preferences that he does...Whatever.
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Well, there you go! If I was a match shooter, and used a sling, I would have thought about that. The point I was making is that you CAN have a rifle in a "flimsy, unstable" GI plastic stock which gets exceptional accuracy because of the barrel.
I use my USGI glass-stocked heavy barrel rifle slung and it works fine.... Of course, I'm only shooting at 600 yard reduced targets - not at 600 yards.
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