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Old 02-21-2005, 10:35 PM   #1
 
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M1a Scout, (Socom), or Fulton's Service 18"bbl

I'm considering my 1st semi-auto rifle purchase:
Springfield M1a Scout (walnut), Socom, or Fulton Armory Service 18"bbl. (wood).

Please give me your advise (or point me to some prior posts. I have done some searches and have read some good points).

I will use this for:
shooting 25y, 100y, 200y;
deer and wild pig hunting;
& shtf in the Wilderness (overnight stays in backpacking tent, pick up camper shell, or cabin)

I would like something that is
1. reliable
2. durable ...for 1000s of rounds
3. accurate enough to hunt big game
4. responsive customer service
5. handy
6. wood stocked or can be converted to wood stock (socom?)
7. under $2000

I already have boxes of Remington 180 grain Bronze Point shells and have cases of 7.62x51mm surplus 148 grain shells. Will 180 grains feed and shoot OK?

How is Fulton's customer service & warrenty? Does Fulton uses more USGI spec'd parts? Would a Fulton's last longer than a Sprinfield for years of heavy use? Are there other reputable M-14/M1a type rifle armory that I should consider?

I've been using bolt action rilfes (.308 & 8mm Mauser) and lever action carbine (.44RM) for several years.
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Old 02-22-2005, 04:37 AM   #2
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Under $2000 -- I would have LOU at LRB install one of his chrome lined
18.50" Tanker barrels on one of his complete USGI rifles and be happy
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Old 02-22-2005, 04:50 AM   #3
 
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I agree with the the suggestion for lou - if you can afford a LRB rifle, i think it is a worthy investment.. it fullfills all your needs as listed.
http://www.lrbarms.com
But that being said, fulton's up there too (cast not forged reciever), and Springfield will be a lot cheaper and back their products up.
I have heard 180 grains might be a bit too heavy for a m1a unless you get a vented gas plug or something on those lines.
FYI you can change a wood/synthetic stock out between a scout, scocom or regular sized m1a - there is no difference.
Hope this helps!
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Old 02-22-2005, 05:48 AM   #4
 
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thank you

thanks, SunRise 420 & Yute.

I will look into http://www.lrbarms.com

Since a SOCOM (or any M1a) can be re-stocked, can the SOCUM 16 reliably digest 180 grain hunting loads (for mule deer and feral pigs- frontal shot on a large boars' gristle "plate"-- if my 1st shot to the broadside "wakes" 'em up , however unlikley, against a charge)?
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Old 02-22-2005, 06:15 AM   #5
 
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Re: thank you

Your first shot will kill them on the spot if properly placed. No reason why you should not be able to hit one behind the ear. My last hunt was with 147 gr. FMJ FNM and the boar and javelina dropped like they were hit with a sledge hammer. No problems with chest plate penetration. It would be better to use something heavier, but my M25 clone was sighted in for FNM, it shoots MOA and sub MOA with it, and I'm confident with shot placement. Hogs ain't mythical monsters. They die as quickly as anything else when shot correctly. BTW, I am going to a Scout setup to lighten the load for wild hog hunting like you. ARMS 18 mount will replace the Scout mount up front (it's a little too rinkydink for me and the ARMS22 gives more options).
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Since a SOCOM (or any M1a) can be re-stocked, can the SOCUM 16 reliably digest 180 grain hunting loads (for mule deer and feral pigs- frontal shot on a large boars' gristle "plate"-- if my 1st shot to the broadside "wakes" 'em up , however unlikley, against a charge)?
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Old 02-22-2005, 06:18 AM   #6
 
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BTW, I use SA as I've never had a problem, they have a lifetime warranty, they've been around forever (and will be in the future), and I've never heard of anyone ever wearing out an SA M1A receiver. My M25 clone, which started life as an SA NM preban, has burned through three barrels and no receiver wear. I've heard some have had problems, and I'm not knocking LRB. If I had a need, I'd look into getting an LRB.
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Old 02-22-2005, 07:31 AM   #7
 
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oputstanding picture. got it: get an ARMS 18 or 22 mount

airbiscuit: "...going to a Scout setup to lighten the load for wild hog hunting like you. ARMS 18 mount will replace the Scout mount up front (it's a little too rinkydink for me and the ARMS22 gives more options)..."

good points, airbiscuit.
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Old 02-22-2005, 07:46 AM   #8
 
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SA has lifetime warranty

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...I use SA as I've never had a problem, they have a lifetime warranty,...burned through three barrels and no receiver wear. ....
SA's lifetime warranty & reputed good customer service sounds good.

I've been envying/admiring one too many M1a rifles at my local Richmond Rod & Gun Club. This past friday there was a father and son pair trying out thier socom...i kept staring and asking questions (heh heh).

I was going for a CMP M1, but i realized a walnut M1a is what i've been wanting since my Boy Scout days (one of our adult troop leaders, ret. Navy man, praised M-14s & M1s. Both my wife and my son prefer (very important people for me to please) a walnut stock...I like walnt stocks as well, though SOCOM does look cool.

Off Topic rants (pardon): my son will know in a month if he gets into his 1st college choice: Air Force Academy (pray & pray). I can't belive my father's (ret. Army) wife sold the M1 carbine he had promised to me!
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Old 02-22-2005, 10:17 AM   #9
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Re: SA has lifetime warranty

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...I use SA as I've never had a problem, they have a lifetime warranty,...burned through three barrels and no receiver wear. ....
SA's lifetime warranty & reputed good customer service sounds good...
The lifetime warranty was a big reason why I invested in an SAI rifle - no regrets.
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