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Old 11-18-2004, 12:33 PM   #1
 
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Just tried the dishwasher trick!

And HOLY COW!!! I cant belive how good this works. All by the largest dents are gone. The wood is a little rough now, but some 0000 steel wool ought to fix that.

One question though. How long should I let the stock and hand guards dry before starting with the BLO?
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Old 11-18-2004, 01:34 PM   #2
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Sarge,

You may want to wait a few days or week. I don't have that kind of patience, so I put it in a low humidity area and oil it the next day.

Walnut (unlike teak) dries from the outside in... so it may look dry.
As long as you don't "seal" it (like with a urethane) while it is wet inside you should be ok.

I assume you did not use heated drying in the DW.

Good luck and post some pictures.

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Old 11-18-2004, 02:13 PM   #3
 
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The dishwasher is a cool method of staring to refinish.

I let mine sit for a day or so, then started with 000 steel wool and then Tung oil. Turned out real nice.
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Old 11-18-2004, 05:20 PM   #4
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Walnut (unlike teak) dries from the outside in... so it may look dry.
so how does teak dry? not from the outside in???
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Old 11-19-2004, 05:12 AM   #5
 
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I had thought that a few days to a week would be right but wanted to be sure. I have the stock and ahnd guards hanging in the back bathroom over the tub right next to the heat/AC vent. We do not shower in this one so I figured that would be a pretty good place to hang it.
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Old 11-19-2004, 05:36 AM   #6
 
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I've tried the DW method once. At first I was skeptical, so I did a stock that I wasn't afraid to ruin, but after seeing how well it came out, I am wanting to do a couple others. I didn't use the heat dry on the DW and once it completed, I let it sit for a good 24 hours before putting on 5 coats of BLO and 2 coats of tung oil. It turned out to be one of my best stocks. Of course, you have to be careful with some of the cartouches since they maybe raised in the process.
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Old 11-19-2004, 06:35 AM   #7
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When using the dishwasher to clean the stock, do you use dishwashing soap? If not, what do you use?
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Old 11-19-2004, 07:33 AM   #8
 
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When using the dishwasher to clean the stock, do you use dishwashing soap? If not, what do you use?
Here is how you do it.

http://www.swampworks.com/Swampy%27s%20 ... ing-1.html

It might not be a bad idea to make Swampys page on this a "sticky"
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Old 11-19-2004, 07:52 AM   #9
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Yes, use the DW soap.

I've done 6 or 7 in a DW, and only had two crack.... they were repairable. They didn't have cartouches I cared about.

Just a note on one of my comments:
Teak is (standard disclaimer: as far as I know) the only wood that dries from the inside out. This makes it great for use on boats and in wet, sunny conditions.
Some of the Yugo SKS rifles were built with teak stocks.... the most expensive part of the rifle, no doubt

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Old 11-19-2004, 08:35 AM   #10
 
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When using the dishwasher to clean the stock, do you use dish washing soap? If not, what do you use?
I used a little Dawn dish washing soap! I just put it were the regular DW soap, closed the door, and put it on "high heat wash" & "heavy wash" but I did NOT use the " High heat dry" .

I did scrub it with Formbys furniture stripper before I put it in the dish washer, it broke down the top layers of crud and the DW took care of the rest. I did not have ANY cartouches, so no worries there. I did notice that all but the deepest dents were gone. So that is another step saved. ( steaming out the dents ) I now only have two dents and they are now much smaller than they were, I think I will leave them alone, they add character.
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Old 11-19-2004, 08:18 PM   #11
 
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I've used wood deck cleaner on the stock prior to putting it in the dishwasher. Made things come out much easier.
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Old 11-19-2004, 08:57 PM   #12
 
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The instructions for using the dishwasher are great, but you guys left out the most important part. How do you either: (1) get the wife to agree to let you use the dishwasher for said purpose; or (2) get past her and use it without her knowledge? My wife is very tolerant of my love for these battlerifles, but I'm afraid that using the dishwasher to scrub a stock would be pushing things a bit too far with her.

"Oh my God! What are you doing to my dishwasher? You're going to ruin it. That's for dishes not for wood." etc., etc., etc. - I'm sure you get the picture.
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Old 11-20-2004, 06:40 AM   #13
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I just remind her on who pays the friggin bills in this joint!
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Old 11-20-2004, 07:04 AM   #14
 
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Guys,

The Dish Washer method

1) Wait until some day when your SO is leaving the house to hit that Big Sale at Jacque Penne' and go for it...

2) Don't worry about M1 wood leaving a mess behind. The DW is a "self cleaning" appliance. You can't tell anything other than dishes were done once the cycle is complete and your stock is long gone.

3) Use a full helping of DW soap, long pots & pans cycle, HOT water.

4) Leave the "Heat Dry" in the OFF position, or intercept the cycle and remove the wood after the last rinse.

4) Don't forget to put the upper rack back in before SHE gets home.

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Old 11-20-2004, 04:26 PM   #15
 
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Jeremy.....Not all Husbands pay the bills! If my husband were to clean a stock in the dishwasher, I would be ok with that, as long as he reloaded the dirty dishes afterwards and ran the dishwasher again!
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Old 11-21-2004, 08:13 AM   #16
 
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Did the same thing, but using the dish washing gel and a tooth brush, working it in and then washing it off with hot water in the bath tub. (clean it up before mom sees it!) Don't have glasses that taste funky (my bother washed it hat in the dish washer and made all the dishes taste funny after a few washes.)

to finish it off, I used an iron and a wet cloth to fix the dents. The finish was using Minwax (use some other brand than minwax, it seals it self when it dries so you can't put another layer if you want) and Tung Oil. Ruffed it up with steel wool to make it look mil.
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Old 11-21-2004, 09:58 AM   #17
 
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Just out of curiosity, how much does the wood typically swell when you run them through the DW treatment?? I would think that the hot water would cause the wood particles to expand atleast somewhat. Couldn't this cause potential problems if the stock swelled up too much and it wouldn't properly fit with the receiver and trigger group? Is it common to have to sand portions of the stock down afterwards?
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Old 11-21-2004, 10:59 AM   #18
 
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Just out of curiosity, how much does the wood typically swell when you run them through the DW treatment?? I would think that the hot water would cause the wood particles to expand atleast somewhat. Couldn't this cause potential problems if the stock swelled up too much and it wouldn't properly fit with the receiver and trigger group? Is it common to have to sand portions of the stock down afterwards?
Mike,

Never any appreciable swelling that I've seen.... and I've done numerous stocks in the DW.

After the fact.... look at the photos. You CAN sand if you want to, you can also just buff down the surface with a Scotch-Brite pad, or you can go right ahead and finish out.

Just my results,
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Old 11-21-2004, 12:42 PM   #19
 
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Silly question - do you remove *all* the metal before dishwashing, including the clip on the rear handguard and the ferrule on the foreend where the forward sling swivel attaches?

The reason I ask is that it looks pretty hard to remove those parts.
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Old 11-21-2004, 03:23 PM   #20
 
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Silly question - do you remove *all* the metal before dishwashing, including the clip on the rear handguard and the ferrule on the foreend where the forward sling swivel attaches?

The reason I ask is that it looks pretty hard to remove those parts.
I left the rear hand guard clip on, and the stock ferrule on. They came out looking a funny color, but a little oil and they looked just like they did when they went in.
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