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jdh45acp 11-19-2016 09:23 AM

#3083216 Springfield Garand W/ matching parts...
 
I've cross referenced the serial numbers on most of the parts and they match up. The wood handles and the stock and accompanying meatalwork look original with any markings long since worn off. I bought a replacement stock and use it when I shoot but have kept the original grips and handles as is. The only part that doesn't matchup with the original production date is the barrel. It's a SA 65 so short of having the original barrel this is a more then acceptable replacement. Now here is where it gets very upsetting... the barrel is stamped with the Excel Gardner MA mark. I've talked with a few other people about this rifle and there is a debate if this was a parted rebuilt??? The biggest problem with that is the serial numbers of the parts matchup too well for these to be replacement parts. I know it's very unlikely to find that golden gun but what should I do with a possible original WWII Springfield with a SA 65 stamped barrel?

jdh45acp 11-19-2016 09:46 AM

Here is a pic of my son with the M1. It shoots pretty darn good for an old girl.

https://vault.myvzw.com/webcs/app/sh...ite/lMMXgGIIkx

stand watie 11-19-2016 12:56 PM

jdh45acp,

SHOOT it a lot, punching paper and/or hunting. = Virtually EVERY Garand has been rebuilt or at least "re-depoted" by the USA or a foreign nation. - Some Garands have been rebuilt > 5 times over the last 70+ years.

Fwiw, one of my Garand rifles shows "marks" of being rebuilt 4 times since being built at SA in early 1942.- The last KNOWN rebuilding was at RRAD in 1964. = RRAD's folks did a FINE job, as it shoots better than I can with 70YO eyes.

BEST WISHES.

yours, satx

bearcat6 11-19-2016 02:29 PM

I'm not sure what you mean by matching numbers Garands don't have parts serialized to the guns number like K98 Mausers etc. The numbers are part numbers. The marking you mentioned sounds like an importers mark, but I'm not familiar with it.

CaptainGyro 11-19-2016 03:31 PM

There's nothing wrong with a rifle that shoots well. It looks like a nice addition to your collection.

At the risk of butting in where I wasn't asked, please have your son bring his hips back and his torso forward when he assumes an offhand firing stance. His center of gravity needs to be slightly forward of the balls of his feet. Just Google some pictures of people shooting rifles offhand and he'll get the picture.

jdh45acp 11-19-2016 03:35 PM

From what I've researched and been told the individual serial numbers on the parts can give you an approximate "born on date" window. If the part doesn't match up then it was replaced at some time. But if it does match then it's original or someone took the time, effort and cash to find the correct production date window for that part. And as for the SA 65 barrel it looks to be a government barrel that passed all the testing then was sent overseas. It came back into the country at some time after 1965 and was stamped with this export mark.

stand watie 11-19-2016 03:39 PM

bearcat6,

SOME foreign nations serial-numbered Garand rifles at "rebuild time". - A friend in Dallas has a LUXEMBURG NATIONAL POLICE ISSUE & that has essentially EVERY part (except the springs/screws) serial-numbered at their national arsenal.

Robert has turned down 2000.oo cash for his rifle. = It's a RARE item, as Luxemburg has rebuilt/marked FEW rifles.

yours, sw

jdh45acp 11-19-2016 03:46 PM

My mistake in my last post. **Import mark**.

jdh45acp 11-19-2016 03:56 PM

I'm never going to part with it so in part I wanted to know what I should have it insured for as it is now? Secondly, I'm torn between just leaving it as is or trying to find a SA 65 barrel without an import mark. Or try to acquire an original barrel that's been rerifled. I honestly feel this Garand is all original as to its born on date but had a post 1965 import barrel put on it as a replacement to the original worn out on somewhere before 1989. That's when it came into my family.


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