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ardog1 02-13-2008 03:31 AM

New Stash of BM59's and Italian Garands
BM59's bit me last october. Then Italian Garands.

Missing from photo:
1 one arm folding stock
1 unfinished Nigerian stock
1 New barrel from Reese, maybe two
a few scattered mags
a very pristine Beretta Garand, correct as far as I know if there is such a think. Everything clean and marked PB (hope to add photo)
a variety of italian Garand parts here and there
I have a varied order with Andy (jeez and tentative anymore) in Italy and waiting for his buddy to come back from traveling or something. Possibly avoiding me after I bought a few thousand dollars worth of Garand small parts right when the dollar dropped like an anchor.

A new springfield box with all tags and small stuff, very pristine.
You never know what I've forgotten. I suprise myself.






Rob P. 02-13-2008 08:35 AM

Now that is dedication! Very impressive, I particulary like the investment in spare parts. Nothing is more important than being able to continue to shoot your guns long after parts dry up and start to become prohibitively expensive. Like money in the bank only funner! One question, are the bayonets special to the BM-59 or are they copies of USGI type? Could you post any close up pics if they are different? I have never seen one before. They appear to look like M14 bayo's but with leather handles?

Thank You, and Semper Fi,


mikebaker1129 02-13-2008 02:41 PM

I really liked it across the street and I like it here !Is that a '62 stock ?
Are the Berettas or SA inc's ? Not that it matters much .
Very nice collection ! You have amassed in a few months what takes many years to collect !
You should be proud .

ardog1 02-13-2008 04:39 PM

Two of the BM59's are Beretta's, one was NIB and the other like new. The third has the Nigerian stock and is a Springfield.

I still have to find my heal marked Beretta Garand in the attic and the pictured and almost complete pictured Garand is a Breda. I am collecting the last BMB parts now.

Yes I have one 62 stock. All rifles and most parts came from board members here and across the street.

Looking for a nice double bar folder with or without a rifle.

Any help would be appreciated. I will track down any leads.

Thanks for the nice comments. It's hard to find much on these and I hope others will share in return. I can't find much on Italian Garands. Anyone?


paid4c4 02-13-2008 05:05 PM

Any dealers still selling new BM 59's?

mikebaker1129 02-13-2008 05:27 PM

I do not think so Bill.
There are a few on gunbroker. You can always have a M1 receiver modified and build your own. I am having 1 built and 1 receiver converted as we speak. I looked for 4 years to locate someone that would convert a M1 .
A fella on CMP forum had one done and has pics of it . His handle is cwouscgret you can do a search .

If you need some additional information email me I will copy and mail you some .

stratrocker 02-13-2008 05:31 PM

wow!!!! :D

nice dogs too 8) I miss mine :cry:

Glocker 02-14-2008 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by baker1972
I do not think so Bill.
There are a few on gunbroker. You can always have a M1 receiver modified and build your own. I am having 1 built and 1 receiver converted as we speak. I looked for 4 years to locate someone that would convert a M1 .
A fella on CMP forum had one done and has pics of it . His handle is cwouscgret you can do a search .

If you need some additional information email me I will copy and mail you some .

Hi, yes I want one, who does a convertion and how much? Are there any downfalls to having a M1 converted? Such as having parts that I might need later on. in other words things do break. I would really like to have one. Thanks in advance.

mikebaker1129 02-14-2008 06:02 PM

CMP armory. .It is not listed on their website,you will need to call or email them on costs .
I am having 2 receivers done and 1 parts kit assembled on 1 receiver. Your cost may differ .
The conversion is permanent and there is no going back to a garand after the work is done . Lots of M1 parts and BM59 parts will interchange ,but not all .How many parts interchange depends on which way you set it up.
Mine is going to be a "E" model which looks exactly like a M1 garand with a 20 rd mag . There are several different barrel lengths and models of BM59's .
Hope this helps !

Budsboy 02-14-2008 06:45 PM

I have two new 20rd mags and would like to sell them.
What's a fair price?

Cowboy 02-14-2008 08:12 PM

Guys, please don't cut up GI receivers for this stuff. Get a Century or SAinc. to cut up. The latter is never going to be worth more than it is the day its sold. Those GI receivers will be worth double or triple thier value in 10 years.

Rob P. 02-14-2008 08:32 PM

+1 with Cowboy, get a SA Inc. reciever for that kind of project.

Ardog1 how bout the info on the bayonets?

Semper Fi, Rob

mikebaker1129 02-15-2008 02:54 AM

One of these was a import and the CMPstill has lots of receivers . Buy all you want and do what you will with them . There will still be plenty of "History" left out there minus these 2 .
The 2 Century receivers were not in spec , so they did not work out ,that was my original intent .
I knew that someone would have some ill will toward me for this , but just hope that I do not fall in love with these when I get them back or I will be Carving out alot more.
When I work and make my money I get a little upset when someone wants to tell me what I should or should not do with my money or my property !
I apologize in advance if I offended anyone ,but I am kinda offended myself . Kinda like people that do not like guns ,so they want to pass legislation to ban them fromeveryone. I have a much simpler idea .If you do not like guns ,don't buy any and don't own any .I do not mind if you don't like 'em !
Same philosophy goes to the guys that object to machining M1 Garands .
Rant off .

Cowboy 02-15-2008 06:16 AM

I see your point--asking people to cut up commercial receivers instead of USGI receivers is just like outlawing guns. Profundity, thy name is baker1972.

Knock off the faux 'if anyone's offended, I'm offended myself' crap. There wasn't anything to be offended by, you just wanted to pick a fight. Nobody told you what to do (or not do) with your guns, Rob and I made comments directed at no specific individual. You just wanted to thump your chest.

mikebaker1129 02-15-2008 02:59 PM

It was not my intent to rile anyone up. Everyone has their opinion and I respect that, I do however disagree .
Maybee I read more into your comment than was actually there .

Rob P. 02-15-2008 05:56 PM

Everyone's entitled to an opinion, if you want to cut up M1 recievers with your money, that is your right to do so. I think Cowboy and myself believe that these are pieces of history, and a finite number were manufactured. Many have and will wear out and break of there own accord over time. Many are helped along in there demise by stupid government projects such as capn crunch and some of those photos of them being cut up in the Phillipines that circulated the net a couple months ago. I personnaly do not think we need to speed up the process when a viable alternative exists. The great thing is, this is a free country, I am free to voice my opinion on this forum, and you are free to voice yours. No one is going to hall either of us off to a concentration camp for doing either. No offense should be taken by anyone for either view point that would alienate us from one another. If you choose to build your BM59 from a USGI reciever, when you post the results here I will still admire it and say so. I just would not use a USGI reciever myself to make one.

Semper Fi, Rob

mikebaker1129 02-16-2008 04:18 AM

Very well said !
I totally agree with you Rob P.

paid4c4 02-16-2008 05:56 AM

Rob, very well said and not meaning to ride the fence I agree with both of you. M1 Garand receivers are little pieces of history to be treasured and taken care of and I wouldn't take my 12/41 SA receiver and have it converted to a BM 59. I would take a less historically valued receiver and convert it. Like you I certainly think we have room to openly discuss different points of views and opinions, isn't that the reason we have forums?

ardog1 02-16-2008 12:46 PM


I was hoping that Baker1972 would feel bad and send it to me.

I am also contemplating a conversion with my extra parts. Perhaps from a Beretta or Breda Garand.

For now I will be looking for other instances of opportunity and just see what happens.

One way or another, all my spare parts (and I just ran in to two large stashes, one of which is already incoming) will become rifles.

It's hard to say what is corrct with respect to Italian Garnands and BM59's. I do know I won't be breaking down nicely built rifles. Plenty of rescue work to be done.


mikebaker1129 02-16-2008 12:58 PM

Care to share on the latest stashes ?
Always looking for new sources for parts ?

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