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Old 11-03-2007, 01:19 PM   #1
 
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Saw a "REAL" Tanker at a gun show today

Went to a gun show today and spotted a tanker. Had a muzzle brake similar to an M14. When I asked who built the rifle the guy said it came from Aberdeen Proving Ground. And was the real deal. Springfield reciever. 30 06. The guy said I could trace the serial number to prove it's real. What do you guy's think?..........Yes I wrote down the number. And have seller's info. Thank's
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Old 11-03-2007, 01:37 PM   #2
 
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The only "real" Tankers are in museums.
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Old 11-03-2007, 02:06 PM   #3
 
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"Big bait - big fish"
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Old 11-03-2007, 02:34 PM   #4
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The only "real" Tankers are in museums.
Yep. Both of them.
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Old 11-03-2007, 02:51 PM   #5
 
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Glad I did'nt get "Hooked"
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Old 11-03-2007, 03:05 PM   #6
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Now that's the best "story" I've heard in a LOOOng time!

How much was this weasel selling the rifel for?

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Old 11-03-2007, 04:14 PM   #7
 
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Maybe the seller stole the "tanker" from the small arms museum at APG, there was one there last time I visited.

If so, someone has some 'splainin to do.
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Old 11-03-2007, 05:15 PM   #8
 
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Well owning a tanker and having done a little bit of research tipped me off to this most likely being a fake. But experiance has taught me I don't know everything..lol. So I politly got the price and info from the seller. The price was 13,000. I have his bussiness card in case anyone is interested in this ummmm. Genuine "Tanker". I don't suppose there is even a remote chance this guy's rifle is for real?
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Old 11-03-2007, 05:27 PM   #9
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Sorry, not a chance at all.
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Old 11-03-2007, 05:38 PM   #10
 
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I believe that if he sold it claiming it was "the real thing" and most likely knowing it is not, it would constitute fraud.
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Old 11-03-2007, 06:07 PM   #11
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Interesting tactic, selling it for such a sum...

If he really got it from APG, he'll need the money for his legal defense

Sounds really screwy to me...

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Old 11-04-2007, 06:31 AM   #12
 
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No Tanks

I have a good buddy who only buys "story" guns. I'll bet some poor fool buys that Tanker. You may want to telephone the Curators Office at Aberdeen Proving Grounds and tell him one of his guns is missing. I am very serious! Call APG. Once you learn it is a fake, call your local Police Dept. and talk to the Fraud Unit. This guy needs a serious talk from the cops. Happy hunting.
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Old 11-04-2007, 05:18 PM   #13
 
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Laissez faire!

All the nonsense about calling the police department about fraud aside, there were two short rifles built and one WAS destroyed in testing at APG during the war before the military trashed the idea of building a short-barreled M1. The existing one is in the Springfield Armory museum, if my memory serves me correctly. The ones built in the Philippines were absorbed into the war effort and no one has any record of them as far as I know.

There were a number of short rifles built in the Far East after the war for the shorter stature Asian allies, but they were strictly local work.

If the police arrested everyone who told a lie at a gunshow, they would have to rent a stadium to hold them every time a show was convened. Besides, all the used car salesmen would take up most of the available space in any jail.

The best one I've heard in some time was the other day at a show in Knoxville, Tenn. Fellow had a CMP rack grade that was pretty well worn($295), a grenade launcher ($6) and a dummy grenade ($10-15) and had installed the launcher on the rifle. Voila!! His asking price for this "special" M1 was only $1795. I walked up and he was into his pitch before I saw the tag and turned away laughing out loud. The last thing I could hear him saying was "You'll be sorry you missed this one!"

If there's a fool born every minute, then try your best not to look like one. Gunshows have great bargains occasionally, but crooks more often.

If anything kills gunshows, it most likely will be the number of crooked dealers. A regular PT Barnum side show around here.
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Old 11-04-2007, 06:43 PM   #14
 
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Oh well

Oh well, $13,000.00 theft would constitute a felony around here. Maybe not on the East Coast, but out here it is a crime. I once saw an old lady trying to sell off her deceased husband's stuff. She had '03 rear sights for $.50 and trigger guard screws for $5.00. I told her what was right and what was wrong. She had a old coot with her and he her told her I was trying to "F#@$" her and not to listen to me. I have given up on gunshows. But that thief trying to sell off that Tanker needs a day in jail.
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Old 11-05-2007, 04:01 PM   #15
 
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I just got off the phone with the owner of this rifle. He said that he worked on the tanker project. That upon completion there were 4 tanker's left complete on the rack. And that this is one of those 4. He also claims to have documentation proving this. And will provide it upon request Could this be the real deal??? Hmmmm
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Old 11-05-2007, 04:01 PM   #16
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A couple dealers around here always say the CMP garands are junk! Can't imagine why! You go into their shop and see rack grades with price tags of $1200 Plus! One of my customers went and looked at a Winchester with a Marlin barrel and the "dealer" tried to tell him the "PM" stamp meant it was a Match Rifle. I'm glad that he talked to me before he laid down the 1400 for it.
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Old 11-05-2007, 04:41 PM   #17
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If as this guy says, four rifles were made instead of two, and he was part of the project, he would have to be approaching 90 years old. If he has documentation to prove all of the history books wrong, then let him take it to Scott Duff and have it validated. An extra documented rifle from the Springfield Armory experimental shop would be worth more like $130,000 not $13,000. I suspect the rifle is worth more like $500.00. This is a scam, let it go.
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Old 11-05-2007, 04:49 PM   #18
 
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Ya the guy's 81. 130,000 does seem more in line. Scam or no. If I bought it I'd be real glad it was a "short" rifle. Cause when my wife found out I spent that kinda cash on a gun 2 month's before christmas. Well you know where she'd be trying to put it. Right up my A...........
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Old 11-05-2007, 04:59 PM   #19
 
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How old is this guy? Unless he was a boy working at Springfield in the early forties, he would have to approaching something in the 85-90 year old bracket. You have to remember, the youngest WWII vets are now in their early-to-mid-80's. And the men who worked on these rifles were likely older men who had been employed for some time at the arsenal. So, you've got to be looking at a really old guy for this to have been one of the original rifles from SA during WWII. Ain't likely and the authorities say there were only two ever made.

What might be possible is that someone made up some of these in the 50's at some base shop somewhere and handed them out to brass or something like that. There was a lot of monkeying around with M1's in the 50's through the late 60's and a lot of interesting stuff got built.

I would be skeptical about these being anything other than someone's customization of a standard Garand. But, let us know. It's an interesting story nonetheless.
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Old 11-05-2007, 07:06 PM   #20
 
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Story Guns

Just to shut up guys like me, please prevail upon your friend to publish the data/story on this Tanker. I understand 2 guns were made up in Manila 1945 and tried out. Unsuccesful failures. Muzzle flash 3-4 feet! All of this is well doumented. They were shipped off to Springfield. What happened there is anybody's guess. If there is a real story and PROOF of said story lots of people would be highly interested in that Garand. And it would indeed be worth more than $13,000.00. As they say, the proof is in the pudding. There are so many BS heros around that Congress has passed the Stolen Valor Act. Older Vets are terrible story tellers. Memories fail and guys don't recall facts from fiction. But if this is real it would behove the man to get the story out.
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