Well here goes nothing................

ltcboy · 08-19-2004, 11:31 AM

I am going to prove to everybody that the dishwasher method is easy and safe. I am going to strip my IHC stock and handguards, its in the dishwasher as we I post this initial thread. I plan on finishing it with the Watco Danish Oil. I have never used it before, always the BLO. I hope that you guys that have steered me into using it have had great results. Here is the before pic:

http://photobucket.com/albums/0603/Ltcboy/

I will post a pic of what it looks like after the dishwasher method has been completed. I just did my Bren stock and hanguards in the dishwasher and it completely stripped them down. I am confident that I will get the same results with the IHC stock.

Mike

Blood of Tyrants · 08-19-2004, 12:53 PM

Just to warn others, if you have a stock with a rare cartouche on it, the hot water in the diswasher will most likely take it out. In that case, it is MUCH better to buy 5 gallons of mineral spirits and soak it in a trough or 6" diameter PVC pipe if you can find one.

Carbine Williams · 08-19-2004, 01:13 PM

He either has a really long wash cycle on his dishwasher or the wife came home early

Rancid · 08-19-2004, 01:30 PM

I started a thread a while back, "to wash or not to wash"

I went and used Antique furniture refinishes, and Mineral spirits, and finally washed it in the sink.

I like the way it turned out, and I don't think that you can damage it that way.

I would like to wash it again, as there is still a little residual oil coming out, .....can I come over and use your wifes dishwasher??

My wife doesn't have one other than me, and said she would kill me if I ask my mother-in-law

Rancid

Jne77 · 08-19-2004, 01:40 PM

I have a Hotsy aquaious hot water cleaning system at my shop. It's basically a industrial dishwasher and it worked great on an M1 stock I just did. The water gets to 200+ degrees so it cleaned the wood great. If this
didn't damage it I'm sure the home dishwasher won't.

TwoBravo · 08-19-2004, 01:44 PM

Try Castrol super cleaner, then wash off with water. Works great. At Wal-Mart etc. $7 gal.

Seeeemper Fi

ltcboy · 08-19-2004, 02:09 PM

Just to warn others, if you have a stock with a rare cartouche on it, the hot water in the diswasher will most likely take it out.

As for Blood of Tyrants....no dice, all of the cartouches remained intact and were NOT raised. Here is some pics of the stock right out of the dishwasher, dried to the bone, ready for the Danish oil treatment.

http://photobucket.com/albums/0603/Ltcb ... ion=logout

I will post pics when the stock is done.

Mike

icormba · 08-19-2004, 02:29 PM

ltcboy,
what settings did you use on the Dishwasher? I might give it a try on an extra old stock I got laying around the house.
and what did your dishwasher look like after the wash?
I put a dirty sling in the wash once and the whole dishwasher turned brown! Had to run it again, with nothing in there, to clean it out.

ltcboy · 08-19-2004, 02:39 PM

ltcboy,
what settings did you use on the Dishwasher? I might give it a try on an extra old stock I got laying around the house.
and what did your dishwasher look like after the wash?
I put a dirty sling in the wash once and the whole dishwasher turned brown! Had to run it again, with nothing in there, to clean it out.

My dishwasher has a pots and pans cycle and also a high temperature scrub. I did both at the same time. I let it go the full cycle and it also dried the stock. The dishwasher is clean and there is no residue of any oil or stain. I used regular powder dishwasher soap, the handguards were on the top rack, the stock was angled into the corner on the bottom. Many are skeptical of this method, I have done at least 12 stocks this way. There are no harsh chemicals, your hands are saved from stripping it, and its done in about two hours. As they say, whatever flips your switch.

MIke

MiketheAnimal · 08-19-2004, 02:56 PM

Nice lookin' stock set, ltcboy!

That thing came out sparkling clean. I'm definetely gonna have to try that on my next set of CMP wood. If my dishwasher doesn't have a pots and pans cycle, do you still think it'd be an effective method for cleaning the wood? Also, are you going to sand afterwards? If so, what grit are you going to go up to?

venabulum · 08-19-2004, 06:04 PM

Mmmm...got some old metal...I have a self-cleaning oven....

travisaasen · 08-19-2004, 06:32 PM

Ok, I'll bite. I will do the exact same procedure tomorrow. I purchased 3 extra stocks over the last 4-6 months and I'll spare one of them. I hope it works as well for me. I'll document everything along the way with pictures.

p.s. who's coming over to lean my dishwasher if this goes bad? Man will I be dead...

ltcboy · 08-19-2004, 07:11 PM

If my dishwasher doesn't have a pots and pans cycle, do you still think it'd be an effective method for cleaning the wood? Also, are you going to sand afterwards? If so, what grit are you going to go up to?

Just run it thru twice if the one time doesnt work. I have had to do this before.

MIke

ltcboy · 08-19-2004, 08:42 PM

Here are some pics that I took after applying Watco's Danish Oil. You can see the gradual progression that I have made today. I can say this.. I am very impressed with the quality and the way this stuff goes on so easy. I cannot believe that within 20 minutes it's dry. After taking the furniture out of the dishwasher,I sanded it down lightly with 400 grit sandpaper. I wiped it down and applied the Danish Oil very liberally with a shop rag. The wood really sucked it up. I have been going back and forth all night applying a coat, letting it dry, rubbing it out, then applying another. I also bought the Watco Wax that goes on after this, but I'm debating if I should use it. I have had all I can do to stop myself from using BLO. But all in all, I think that the wood looks pretty good so far. I just dont want a finish that looks to glossy. I really dont know if that Watco wax will give me the finish that I want.

MIke

http://photobucket.com/albums/0603/Ltcb ... ion=logout

magnum62 · 08-19-2004, 08:43 PM

Thanks for the pics and the info, now I am convinced. I have a stock I'll try tomorrow

PT Ray · 08-20-2004, 12:51 PM

"It just ain't natural". But before I continue let me say, it's not the method but the satisfaction. I enjoy working on the wood as much as shooting them. Anyway, here are some of my observations, 1) the stock seemed to has swollen and lost some of its sharpness in regards to corners and edges, 2) you totally wash away the patina of the aged wood, 3) the pores swell in the process and give the wood a pithy look. The reason it takes the oil like a dry sponge is becuase that's what it is after coming out of the dishwasher. I do respect your choice for Watco Danish Oil, I am refinishing my third stock with it. Right now I am on coat 17 and still going. Just take all of this with a grain of salt and put some more Watco on it.

varoadking · 08-20-2004, 04:09 PM

You missed a spot...

ltcboy · 08-20-2004, 06:09 PM

You missed a spot...

After the day I had today--just reading that made me laugh....hehehe

MIke

tigerdvr · 08-20-2004, 06:51 PM

If you can't get away with sneaking into the dishwasher, Simple Green (full strength) does a good job. Spray it on, let it set about 5 minutes or so and wash it off. In tough areas, a little fine steelwool can speed the process.

knobcreek · 08-20-2004, 08:56 PM

Deck cleaner did the job for me, but in the end, I wound up sticking the stock in the dishwasher and am very pleased with the results.

08-19-2004, 11:31 AM	#1
ltcboy Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,665	Well here goes nothing................ I am going to prove to everybody that the dishwasher method is easy and safe. I am going to strip my IHC stock and handguards, its in the dishwasher as we I post this initial thread. I plan on finishing it with the Watco Danish Oil. I have never used it before, always the BLO. I hope that you guys that have steered me into using it have had great results. Here is the before pic: http://photobucket.com/albums/0603/Ltcboy/ I will post a pic of what it looks like after the dishwasher method has been completed. I just did my Bren stock and hanguards in the dishwasher and it completely stripped them down. I am confident that I will get the same results with the IHC stock. Mike

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08-19-2004, 12:53 PM	#2
Blood of Tyrants Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,098	Just to warn others, if you have a stock with a rare cartouche on it, the hot water in the diswasher will most likely take it out. In that case, it is MUCH better to buy 5 gallons of mineral spirits and soak it in a trough or 6" diameter PVC pipe if you can find one.

08-19-2004, 01:13 PM	#3
Carbine Williams Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 528	He either has a really long wash cycle on his dishwasher or the wife came home early

08-19-2004, 01:30 PM	#4
Rancid Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 137	I started a thread a while back, "to wash or not to wash" I went and used Antique furniture refinishes, and Mineral spirits, and finally washed it in the sink. I like the way it turned out, and I don't think that you can damage it that way. I would like to wash it again, as there is still a little residual oil coming out, .....can I come over and use your wifes dishwasher?? My wife doesn't have one other than me, and said she would kill me if I ask my mother-in-law Rancid

08-19-2004, 01:40 PM	#5
Jne77 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Northern CA Wine Country Posts: 618	I have a Hotsy aquaious hot water cleaning system at my shop. It's basically a industrial dishwasher and it worked great on an M1 stock I just did. The water gets to 200+ degrees so it cleaned the wood great. If this didn't damage it I'm sure the home dishwasher won't.

08-19-2004, 01:44 PM	#6
TwoBravo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 609	Try Castrol super cleaner, then wash off with water. Works great. At Wal-Mart etc. $7 gal. Seeeemper Fi

08-19-2004, 02:09 PM	#7
ltcboy Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,665	Just to warn others, if you have a stock with a rare cartouche on it, the hot water in the diswasher will most likely take it out. As for Blood of Tyrants....no dice, all of the cartouches remained intact and were NOT raised. Here is some pics of the stock right out of the dishwasher, dried to the bone, ready for the Danish oil treatment. http://photobucket.com/albums/0603/Ltcb ... ion=logout I will post pics when the stock is done. Mike

08-19-2004, 02:29 PM	#8
icormba Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 697	ltcboy, what settings did you use on the Dishwasher? I might give it a try on an extra old stock I got laying around the house. and what did your dishwasher look like after the wash? I put a dirty sling in the wash once and the whole dishwasher turned brown! Had to run it again, with nothing in there, to clean it out.

08-19-2004, 02:39 PM	#9
ltcboy Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,665	ltcboy, what settings did you use on the Dishwasher? I might give it a try on an extra old stock I got laying around the house. and what did your dishwasher look like after the wash? I put a dirty sling in the wash once and the whole dishwasher turned brown! Had to run it again, with nothing in there, to clean it out. My dishwasher has a pots and pans cycle and also a high temperature scrub. I did both at the same time. I let it go the full cycle and it also dried the stock. The dishwasher is clean and there is no residue of any oil or stain. I used regular powder dishwasher soap, the handguards were on the top rack, the stock was angled into the corner on the bottom. Many are skeptical of this method, I have done at least 12 stocks this way. There are no harsh chemicals, your hands are saved from stripping it, and its done in about two hours. As they say, whatever flips your switch. MIke

08-19-2004, 02:56 PM	#10
MiketheAnimal Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 210	Nice lookin' stock set, ltcboy! That thing came out sparkling clean. I'm definetely gonna have to try that on my next set of CMP wood. If my dishwasher doesn't have a pots and pans cycle, do you still think it'd be an effective method for cleaning the wood? Also, are you going to sand afterwards? If so, what grit are you going to go up to?

08-19-2004, 06:04 PM	#11
venabulum Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 23	Mmmm...got some old metal...I have a self-cleaning oven....

08-19-2004, 06:32 PM	#12
travisaasen Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 388	Ok, I'll bite. I will do the exact same procedure tomorrow. I purchased 3 extra stocks over the last 4-6 months and I'll spare one of them. I hope it works as well for me. I'll document everything along the way with pictures. p.s. who's coming over to lean my dishwasher if this goes bad? Man will I be dead...

08-19-2004, 07:11 PM	#13
ltcboy Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,665	If my dishwasher doesn't have a pots and pans cycle, do you still think it'd be an effective method for cleaning the wood? Also, are you going to sand afterwards? If so, what grit are you going to go up to? Just run it thru twice if the one time doesnt work. I have had to do this before. MIke

08-19-2004, 08:42 PM	#14
ltcboy Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,665	Here are some pics that I took after applying Watco's Danish Oil. You can see the gradual progression that I have made today. I can say this.. I am very impressed with the quality and the way this stuff goes on so easy. I cannot believe that within 20 minutes it's dry. After taking the furniture out of the dishwasher,I sanded it down lightly with 400 grit sandpaper. I wiped it down and applied the Danish Oil very liberally with a shop rag. The wood really sucked it up. I have been going back and forth all night applying a coat, letting it dry, rubbing it out, then applying another. I also bought the Watco Wax that goes on after this, but I'm debating if I should use it. I have had all I can do to stop myself from using BLO. But all in all, I think that the wood looks pretty good so far. I just dont want a finish that looks to glossy. I really dont know if that Watco wax will give me the finish that I want. MIke http://photobucket.com/albums/0603/Ltcb ... ion=logout

08-19-2004, 08:43 PM	#15
magnum62 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 195	Thanks for the pics and the info, now I am convinced. I have a stock I'll try tomorrow

08-20-2004, 12:51 PM	#16
PT Ray Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 12	"It just ain't natural". But before I continue let me say, it's not the method but the satisfaction. I enjoy working on the wood as much as shooting them. Anyway, here are some of my observations, 1) the stock seemed to has swollen and lost some of its sharpness in regards to corners and edges, 2) you totally wash away the patina of the aged wood, 3) the pores swell in the process and give the wood a pithy look. The reason it takes the oil like a dry sponge is becuase that's what it is after coming out of the dishwasher. I do respect your choice for Watco Danish Oil, I am refinishing my third stock with it. Right now I am on coat 17 and still going. Just take all of this with a grain of salt and put some more Watco on it.

08-20-2004, 04:09 PM	#17
varoadking Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 543	You missed a spot...

08-20-2004, 06:09 PM	#18
ltcboy Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,665	You missed a spot... After the day I had today--just reading that made me laugh....hehehe MIke

08-20-2004, 06:51 PM	#19
tigerdvr Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 50	If you can't get away with sneaking into the dishwasher, Simple Green (full strength) does a good job. Spray it on, let it set about 5 minutes or so and wash it off. In tough areas, a little fine steelwool can speed the process.

08-20-2004, 08:56 PM	#20
knobcreek Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 176	Deck cleaner did the job for me, but in the end, I wound up sticking the stock in the dishwasher and am very pleased with the results.