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|09-17-2005, 12:14 PM||#1|
Join Date: Aug 2005
rare m1 clips
what are some rare garand clips to look for and what do they normally run???
ive been hitting up a pair of local surplus stores owned by the same owners. evidently they have a huge stockpile or clips and put them out little by little because every week or so that i go back i find rare clips. last week i found 3 winchesters, 4 ww2 springfields, 5 post war springfields, and 4 international silvers. and this week i found 1 winchester, 8 ww2 sa's, and 2 international silvers.
me and his wife started talking today while i was looking at the id marks, i told her how rare some of these can be by mistake (curse my willingless to talk about guns) on a side thaught i seen a stack of m2 carbine mags so i grabed some and said that i would be back later for the garand clips. i went to put back all my finds in a safe place that i could pick them up later. she grabed the bag out of my hand and said, i wana show these markings to my husband.
like hell i was gona let them find out what ones to weed out and mark up so i said, on second thaught ill go ahead and buy them all. im out of cash but if they wana charge me a arm and a leg then they better start doing there home work.
|09-17-2005, 05:05 PM||#2|
Join Date: Sep 2003
Most of the time its the winchester clips that people ask more for because they know winchester garands and parts that are in good condition are somewhat hard to find
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|09-22-2005, 08:10 AM||#8|
Join Date: Dec 2002
Ok. Here's my take. Only the earliest of the clips with the punched out detent are particularly "rare". There are others that are "uncommon" but these were so mass-produced that most of all the contractors are still available if you look closely at every opportunity. Heck, didn't SA produce over 60,000,000 during the war? Here's what I have:
SA SA with various fonts, dashes and underscores
S or SW Stanley Works
AMP All Metal Products
WEP Wade Electric Products
NW Northwest Metal Products
B-W Borg Warner WW2
BR-W Borg Warner Post War (both followed by die numbers)
f Fedders Mfg Co (followed by capital letter for die)
IS International Silver
C Lerio Patent Cup Co.
MBZ Mourik & Ball (Netherlands)
HA Haerns (Denmark)
BLM Barry L Miller Engineering
MAS Manufacture d'Armes St. Etienne (France)
TF&S Thomas French & Co. Ltd (Britain)
LP Italian, manufacturer unknown, with a 4 digit date
JMO Julius Maurer (Germany)
IMI Israeli Military Industries
L&H Italian or Danish? (with a two digit date)
DANLEY Danley Machine Co. (marked on the side)
C* Taiwan? (the star is inside the body of the "C")
58, 59 Taiwan?
AEC Aggressive Engineering Co. (commercial version) with die code
AGE Aggressive Engineering Co. (military version) with die code
DAQ Dominion Arsenal, Quebec (Canada)
5mm hole Unknown, possibly Austrian
W R Wallace & Sons
S.F. Serini (France or Switzerland)
MFT Metaalwaren Fabrik Tiburg (Netherlands)
Wagon Wheel Taiwan?
All of this data is available in a .pdf document that I saved from the now defunct "Layne's Tips". If you have the space in your email server and a high speed connection I'll be happy to send it to you. Finally, here is the depth of my obsession. Who in their right mind would collect these?
|09-22-2005, 08:15 AM||#9|
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: New Tripoli, Pa
Actually there are some very rare M1 clips, not just the punched out version. Some WWII contractors had a drawing change during production. The second version, which I will not go into, does not exist in large quantities. So far I have seen only SA, O, and IS with the second version of production.
|09-22-2005, 03:50 PM||#12|
Join Date: Dec 2002
I have significant quantities of both SA and IS clips. Would you mind posting the revision descriptions or PM/email them to me? Thanks!
|09-22-2005, 04:04 PM||#13|
Join Date: Sep 2003
I have nothing spectacular like that....all my clips are DAQ...i havent even got one SA yet. I do however have 3 WRA bandoliers that was used for AP M2 Ball
Now is that an early trigger housing as well?
|09-22-2005, 07:08 PM||#14|
Join Date: Oct 2004
Lemozoid, What exactly do you mean by "a punched out detent"? Can you post a pic? Someone else have a pic perhaps? I have several clips that have a hole where most others are marked and apear to be blued not parked...??? what are these?
|09-23-2005, 05:33 AM||#16|
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Camp Lejeune
Is that a "C" star or possibly an "O" star. Looks like a light stamping on the left.
Yes, the "wagon wheel" is Taiwanese.
|04-26-2015, 06:37 AM||#17|
Join Date: Apr 2015
I have yet to see a photo of the WRA with the punched out detent. That seems to be the one to get.
I know may people go for the pressed detent and often get ripped off because they didn't know!
I would like to see the one posted above with the detent in the photo!
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