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Old 11-13-2004, 04:52 PM   #1
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Help with Inland M1 Carbine

SER# 196xxx
Barrel Inland 5 - 43 Blue Sky
Receiver N with a 9 Stamped under the N
Gas Block W 5 The Receiver is pited on the Bottom it is interesting because I can see this rifle laying in dirt.
does the Ser# have any meaning?

And another Question, when you slip the Receiver back in the Recoil plate should the Barrel have a little spring when you put it back together?
Would this be a good gun to restore?
What parts are Inland? SG? PI? ETC. Thanks Bulldog
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Old 11-13-2004, 05:46 PM   #2
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Bulldog, I would try to find a correct barrel, 12/42--3/43. The Blue-sky 5/43 one is too late for this receiver #, besides being marked BS.
The N/9 sounds like a Postal Meter trigger housing.
A little spring tension on the receiver/barrel unit when placing it in the recoil plate and putting the barrel band in place is good to have.
All Inland parts will have an [I] included in the code.
Restoring a Carbine can be a very enjoyable activity, however, be prepared to spend many greenbacks in the pursuit of the period correct 3/43 Inland. Hope this helps.
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Old 11-13-2004, 09:54 PM   #3
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Hey bulldog32, sounds like you are starting to have some fun, keep asking questions! Here is a little tip for all the new collectors, each manufacturer was given an initial to use that would identify them when marking parts, in case there was a later problem. Names were discouraged for potential sabotage reasons:

Inalnd - I
Winchester - W
Underwood - U
Quality Hardware - Q
Rock-Ola - R
Irwin-Pedersen - IP
Saginaw Steering Gear
Saginaw Michigan plant - SG or S.G.
Grand Rapids plant - S'G' (former Irwin-Pedersen plant)
National Postal Meter - N
Standard Products - S
International Business Machines (I.B.M.) - B

This will make spotting the correct parts easier for you. I highly recommend buying the Craig Riesch book, U.S. M1 Carbines Wartime Production, fourth edition, as it will show you the markings needed, and even general serial number ranges for just about everything, along with the "types", or changes made during production. Good luck!
Old 11-14-2004, 08:45 AM   #4
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National postal what to do?

The Ser # 196XXX ON The Inland Reciever .
is this worth anything? Nothing else matches the Receiver and I know it will cost Big $$$ to restore,But would this low number Reciever be worth keeping? Thanks for your advise Bulldog
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Old 11-14-2004, 09:56 AM   #5
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A properly restored, early Inland will bring $1200-$2000 in today's market. You do the math to see if it would be worth it, and don't forget you get to resell the parts you are replacing, which will defray your purchase cost. Also, make sure that they need replacing, as "Integration" caused many parts to be "swapped" among manufacturers if they were low on them. This was war-time production at its best, so a committee was formed to keep the production lines going by making sure nobody ran out of parts. This causes many mixed markings to appear on Carbines, of which Larry Ruth published a partial list in "War Baby!".
It will take some education to find out what should be on your particular Carbine, but it's fun AND rewarding, not to mention potentially profitable. An early Carbine will be harder to restore, but the return is much higher also, your decision.
Old 11-14-2004, 07:36 PM   #6
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Early Inland

You and I are barking up the same tree Bulldog. My Inland is 220XXX. has a 2-43 Bbl which I think is original but no import marks. Keep us informed and I will too. If you see any deals on early Inland parts that you don't need, spread the word !
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Old 11-15-2004, 08:18 AM   #7
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Thom66439: I will keep you informed on what is going on with these guns I may be looking to trade two for one if I can find the right M1 Carbine.Thanks Bulldog
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