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Old 07-16-2019, 05:32 AM   #1
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Muzzle Bore Guides

Hey Knowledge-Base,

If my M1 carbine is setting in a bench rest and I carefully feed the cleaning brass rod through the barrel is a bore guide really necessary?

I've tried to use two of the commercially available ones and both were a pain to use.

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Old 07-16-2019, 06:43 AM   #2
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I wouldn't worry about it. I carried an M2 carbine in Korea for sixteen months and the army doesn't issue bore guides.
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Old 07-16-2019, 11:09 AM   #3
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Pick up an OTIS cleaning kit. Or a tipton fiberglass rod. JMHO.
https://otistec.com/30-caliber-rifle-cleaning-kit/
https://ads.midwayusa.com/product/39...SABEgJkyfD_BwE
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the army doesn't issue bore guides.
So true bearcat6.
In '65-'66 and again in '68-'70 I hauled a mess of great Army infantry all over Vietnam in a C-130A. By the looks of some of them I wouldn't image any 'bore guides' for their M1 carbines or M16's. Maybe I should have asked, but I think I might have been laughed at, had my butt kicked, or worse. Those boys were hard at getting the job done. (With the support of some of us in the air.)

M118LR- Just ordered two, one for my M1 & Winchester model '94 and one for my wife's Henry Golden Boy .22LR.

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Old 07-16-2019, 12:22 PM   #5
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No, a bore guide isn't really necessary, especially if you get one of the carbon fiber cleaning rods referenced above and exercise due care.

Another option is bore snakes. They're pretty easy to use and won't harm your barrel. They're also washable, so you can refresh them easily.

I have one of the Otis cleaning kits and it stays on the shelf. It's tedious to use, contains way too many fussy parts, and is a pain in the ass to stuff back in the little round zippered carrying case. The idea is that you use the coated steel cable to pull all of the various attachments through the barrel, but that just means it's a steel bore snake. And it's expensive...you can get four caliber-specific bore snakes for the price of a single Otis kit.
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No, a bore guide isn't really necessary, especially if you get one of the carbon fiber cleaning rods referenced above and exercise due care.
CaptainGyro- Thanks! I can always depend on you for advise......!
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Uncle Sam issues the OTIS Kits to OUR BOY's over there.
Should you ever decide you need a precision bolt action rifle, Lucus made bore guides (inserted in the breech) are specific to Tipon or other cleaning rods. They are all the rage with precision shooters from my era.
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