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Old 09-09-2009, 09:18 PM   #1
 
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Inland M1 Carbine 12/43

Serial #30927xx
Barrel 12/43
Recently acquired a very nice all correct Inland M1 Carbine. Everything appears to be correct, except for the rear sight. The rear sight was an adjustable, marked PI(?). I replaced it with a flip sight (repo). Would a flip sight be correct for this Inland Carbine?
The other day when I walked into one of the local gun shops, the owner pulls me aside, and shows me this Carbine. Needless to say it was sold within seconds. He stated that he had just purchased it an hour earlier. He bought it from a guy whose Father was a WWII vet, who brought the Inland back from Okinawa.









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Old 09-09-2009, 09:27 PM   #2
 
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Re: Inland M1 Carbine 12/43

Rear sight that came off the Inland M1 Carbine.
You can see where someone hammered away on the right side of the sight to get it installed.
Can anyone tell me the manufacture, and approx. year this rear sight was made?
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Old 09-10-2009, 06:41 AM   #3
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Re: Inland M1 Carbine 12/43

Nice carbine! The backstory makes it more interesting.
Good highwood stock.
Sorry I can't tell you about the adjustable sight.
My father brought an Inland back from Korea with the original flip type rear sight. It works fine, don't knock it.

Your gun's stock is in somewhat better condition. And I notice yours has the type 1 barrel band (mine has type 2).

I hope you enjoy shooting your new gun!
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Old 09-10-2009, 07:22 PM   #4
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Re: Inland M1 Carbine 12/43

The rear sight could have been a field replacement/upgrade done by the unit armorer. Hang on to it.
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Old 09-13-2009, 07:58 PM   #5
 
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Re: Inland M1 Carbine 12/43

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The rear sight could have been a field replacement/upgrade done by the unit armorer. Hang on to it.
I will definietly hang onto the rear sight.
Information I have on the rear sight: Type II milled rear sight, made by Packard (PI) for inland, serial 5,000,000 or later.
This M1 Carbine serial number is a 3,000,000 range. Yes, it could have been installed by an Armorer, but I seem to doubt it. You can see the hammer marks on the right side of the sight. Would an Armorer damage a rear sight like that? It looks more like it was installed by an amateur.
Also, when I purchased this rifle, the front sight was painted white, and the safety was painted red (the paint was old, and faded). I was able to clean it off. I know this has nothing to do with the rear sight, but it does show there were attempts to make change.
I'll continue to research this rear sight.
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Old 09-14-2009, 05:10 PM   #6
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Re: Inland M1 Carbine 12/43

Look for stake marks. The original flippers were staked with chisel marks.
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Old 09-14-2009, 10:17 PM   #7
 
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Re: Inland M1 Carbine 12/43

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Look for stake marks. The original flippers were staked with chisel marks.
I can find no stake marks. Looks like the adjustable rear sight does belong back on the Inland.
What say you
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Old 09-15-2009, 05:19 PM   #8
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Re: Inland M1 Carbine 12/43

The adjustables were staked as well.
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Old 10-26-2009, 07:57 AM   #9
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Re: Inland M1 Carbine 12/43

I've got an Inland also. I took the original stock off because it had been "engraved" by the GI who used it in Nam with the date and where he was wounded. I've put that one away very safely so I can restore it if I want to.

I took the flip sight off and have replaced it with a red dot scope. Makes one hell of a good plinker. Very accurate. I've not tried it on deer. I use my Krag 30-40 or my Winchester 30-30 for that.

Not sure if the barrel band is a type 1 or 2. How do you tell?

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Old 10-26-2009, 08:26 AM   #10
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Re: Inland M1 Carbine 12/43

The barrel band on the carbine in the OP's photo above is a type one. Notice the screw that holds it is on the left, and also maintains the D ring used to secure the sling on front. Also, the band itself is thin and is held by the retainer spring on the stock on the right side.

The type two is thicker and has a hole where that spring holds it back. Also, the screw has been moved and attaches the band at the bottom of the ring rather than on the left side. A different type of D ring is held by a flap of metal that encircles the ring.

Type three is the same, except an extension of the tube is used for a bayonet atachment point forward of the stock.
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Re: Inland M1 Carbine 12/43

Thanks Tommy. I must have a type 3 as I have a bayonet mount.

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Old 10-28-2009, 07:16 PM   #12
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Re: Inland M1 Carbine 12/43

There is a difference between the staking for type 1 sights and adjustables. The type 1 staking is normally a chisel mark. The staking for the adjustable is a punch mark.
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Old 11-11-2009, 05:35 PM   #13
 
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Re: Inland M1 Carbine 12/43

Beautiful carbine. I would definately hold onto any parts that you may replace ... per the advice above. Thanks sharing!
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