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Old 08-29-2009, 02:11 PM   #1
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Anyone hunt with their carbines? If so, what do you hunt and what do you use for ammunition?
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Old 08-29-2009, 04:55 PM   #2
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I've seen deer hunted with a carbine, and seen a deer dropped at about 80yds with 1 shot. A really big doe. I believe the ammo was soft points. I want to say they were PMC.
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Old 08-29-2009, 07:18 PM   #3
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Don't know if this is what you were looking for but back in the late '60's my bro and I used a M1 carbine to shoot rats at the city dump. We used surplus LC ammo. At night we would spot light them and they would pause just long enough for us to get a bead on them. Never used the carbine for any serious hunting. We used .22's for rabbit and squirrel hunting, but that was for meat and our thought was that the .30 carbine round would tear the critters up too much. The carbine round doesn' meet the minimum caliber requirements for hunting where I live now..........
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From somewhere I seem to remember that, in many states, hunting big game (i.e., deer) with the M1 Carbine is not legal.
I can't remember the source, so I can't quote chapter and verse, but I believe that the prohibition has to do with not meeting a minimum muzzle-energy standard.

Does anybody else remember anything about this?
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Old 08-30-2009, 04:22 AM   #5
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In NH at least the only rifles forbidden are rimfires. I'm not clear on handguns. It seems there may be certain towns where specific calibers are allowed or it might be state wide, but .357 magnum is one of the permitted handgun cartridges, so at least in NH, energy isn't part of the criteria.
My post was intended to find hunting bullets that will feed from a carbine and put down game.
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Old 08-30-2009, 05:17 AM   #6
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I have fired Remington SP's, and they feed in 15rd mags, but jam in 30's. I've fired PMC SP's. I can't really speak to the effectiveness of either. I think placement is going to be the primary stopper, and expansion's secondary. Speer makes like 4 different carbine bullets. I think 3 of those are the expanding variety.
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Old 08-30-2009, 05:24 AM   #7
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When we were teenagers my brother took one of Dad's carbines deer hunting. The state ranger caught him with a 30 rd. magazine on it and confiscated the gun. It was legal hunting with the carbine but not with a magazine that holds more than 5 rounds. He only had five rounds in it but it didn't make a bit of difference to the ranger or the judge. It cost me $75.00 in fines to get the gun back. Little brother had no money. By me paying the fine it probably saved him an a$$ whooping when he got home.
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Old 08-30-2009, 07:14 AM   #8
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I bought 4000 Rem. 110 SP's when they were less than 7 cents each- delivered. That is what I use as everything else is way too expensive. GIBrass.com has pulls in stock again for 10 cents each. And as I'm down to my last thousand or so of the Remington's, I might have to buy a few of the pulls. Anyway, the Remington bullet feeds as per the usual with Remington bullets. They have made an ongoing effort to make bullets that will feed in any firearm. I applaud them. But I'm not sure how effective they are on various hunting quarry.
And in NH you'd better have a 5 round or less magazine. If not, there is a heavy fine AND loss of firearm AND loss of hunting privileges. I'm aware of at least one case that the hunter had a plugged magazine and the end result was OK but he had to jump through some hoops.
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Old 08-30-2009, 03:53 PM   #9
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In NH at least the only rifles forbidden are rimfires.
Law reads the same way here in NY. With soft points inside of 50 yards, I wouldn't hesitate to take deer when presented with a good shot. The cartridge is essentially a .357 Magnum in regards to power, and I've taken 2 deer with my S&W 686.

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In NH at least the only rifles forbidden are rimfires.
Law reads the same way here in NY. With soft points inside of 50 yards, I wouldn't hesitate to take deer when presented with a good shot. The cartridge is essentially a .357 Magnum in regards to power, and I've taken 2 deer with my S&W 686.

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Anyone hunt with their carbines? If so, what do you hunt and what do you use for ammunition?
When I was stationed in North Dakota I used to shoot gophers and squirrels with my Carbine. I was using 100gr Speer Plinkers and Speer's 110gr JHP #1835 both with awesome results . I had feeding issues with the JHP, but none with the Plinker.
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Old 09-13-2009, 05:14 PM   #12
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Though I don't recommend the .30 carbine as the most effective deer gun, I have taken a couple of whitetails with mine. Both were one shot stops using 110 grain hollow/soft points at ranges of no more than 50 yards with good shot placement.

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Old 09-13-2009, 07:35 PM   #13
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Only allowed for small game around here....
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Old 09-18-2009, 05:04 AM   #14
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Works fine on our smaller white tails here. As previously noted, check your regs and use an expanding bullet. Hard to recommend a reliable feeding factory load as individual rifles are, well, individuals.
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When I was a kid, the family dentist used to get his deer every year with an M1 carbine. As I grew up in a gunless home, he was, of course, like a god to me.
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Old 09-18-2009, 08:08 AM   #16
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Kind of an update. My friend just bought a Kahr Carbine. Shy of seating those Remington soft points about 1/8" shorter than normal(which I refuse to do for pressure issues) his carbine won't work. So now my request is for bullets that will work in the most contrary carbine you've ever owned. Thanks.
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Old 09-18-2009, 08:12 AM   #17
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The reason they don't work is the ogive is too big to chamber. My guess is there isn't anywhere enough lead in the barrel. I have a very early Universal and an Inland and when loaded to 1.675"ish they both feed fine. On his, I have to go down to about 1.575" OAL to chamber with the Remington bullets.
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Old 09-26-2009, 08:16 PM   #18
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And of course there was more than one answer. Sierra makes a softpoint that is much smaller in the ogive than Remington. My friend appreciated the effort but not the cost and availability. The best answer was a cast bullet. I got mine from Missouri Bullet Company. I ordered on Thursday and received them on Wednesday. And since the bullets cost 9 cents apiece delivered, I like the price. For plinking, they are the balls.
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