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Old 10-29-2006, 07:08 AM   #1
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M1 Carbine 1943 Excellent Plus Condition Auction

OK; advanced collectors, does anyone see anything out of the ordinary on this stated 1943 Inland carbine?

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Old 10-29-2006, 07:27 AM   #2
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I'm hardly an advanced collector, but here goes:

1. The spring on the rear sight isn't fire-blued. Also, Inland didn't use that type of staking on the rear sight pin and I don't think the ends of the pin are rounded. I don't see a small S on the short side, and the corners of the base are awfully square.

2. The entire carbine has been refinished. The bolt is parked, not blued.

3. Replacement mag catch.

4. That isn't an Inland Ordnance wheel, too small.

5. I'm having a really hard time believing that stock. No dings or dents at all, and the edges are crisp and brand new. I wish I knew where he bought it, I'd buy a few... :P
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Old 10-29-2006, 07:37 AM   #3
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Quote: Quagmire: I'm hardly an advanced collector, but here goes:

Well..tell you what, JP, you did better than some of the advanced collectors, I know? IMO...I would say... you most-definately, do qualify. Don't short change, yourself. None of us are....experts on these guns. Even after (35-40) years of this field of endeavor, I still learn something from these guys every day, including the new kids on the block, who email me with findings, I never seen, or heard of, before.
 
 
Old 10-29-2006, 08:13 AM   #4
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I'd like to know why they won't sell to CA residents... they are a CA shop to boot!! the Carbine isn't a AW in CA.. they seem like bozos to me....
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Old 10-29-2006, 03:54 PM   #5
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I also noticed the line-through staking of the rear sight pin. I've never seen that on an Inland flip sight. And Quag (You too marine1) yesyerday I saw an Inland stock that I had never seen before. It was marked R.I. with a flaming bomb in the sling bevel. and it appeared to be an actual low wood, not a cut down. So we all keep learning.
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Old 10-29-2006, 04:28 PM   #6
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Nice, thanks for the info on that stock!
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Old 10-29-2006, 04:58 PM   #7
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I agree Quag. That stock looks really crispy. Maybe an IBM Ord. Wheel size. Reminds me of a question. Several years ago I was helping a friend sort through about a 100 carbine stocks, he had acquired from a gunsmiths estate. We came across 2 brand new looking, type ones with an AI and flaming bomb in the slingwell. They looked so crispy, bright raw wood, even had what appeared to be sawdust still in the front stock channel. It was really cold and damp ( we were outside) I just tossed them into the "look at later" pile and kept going. He put them on Ebay with the warning they might not be GI, but they sold post haste. Since then we have both questioned our original feeling they were repro. So the question is, did anyone ever see a repro highwood, I cut . Maybe some crafty stock duplicating work , but the slingwell markings , makes me wonder if we goofed on those.
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Old 10-29-2006, 05:33 PM   #8
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I agree, it could be a real stock, and it certainly has the right contours for a GI stock. I know I haven't been at this very long, but I've never seen a GI stock that crisp & new looking. Well, except for my CMP Correct & Collector Grade M1s, and even they have a few dents and dings. :P

A year or so back there was a brand new looking I-cut high wood stock on ebay that everyone here was discussing. I remember someone mentioning that it was repro, and that a company (can't remember the name) made them for a while. Not much to go on, sorry.
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A few years ago, the owner of Reese Surplus, called me @ MCCA (Michigan U.S. Carbine Collectors Association Headquarters) and requested that he would like to ship me a Marlin marked stock to inspect, and evaluate for him. It was a walnut highwood, and the full name "Marlin" (not M-U) was marked in the sling bevel. I believed that stock was certainly "legit", due to the age and finish color, ordnance proof mark, inner stock -channel dirt-oil musk appearence, and most of all, the musk- storage smell of genuine age. The Marlin marking was very faintly stamped, but readable. That is the only "Full-Name Marlin" marked stock, I ever seen. There was a report by one of the former MCCA Club Members, of another example observation, from the very early 1960's. This was not documented. Very few collector's, in those days, paid much attention to M1 Carbine's, parts, and accessories documentations. I did an article in one of the MCCA Newsletters about this stock and the findings.
 
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