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Old 09-11-2006, 03:00 PM   #1
 
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2 kinds of mag pouches??

well I thought that the so called stock pouches were all the same. I had heard that the gi's just took normal belt pouches and put them on their stocks. guess I was wrong since I bought one on ebay it just arrived and well.. it has two belt loops that in no way could fit on a stock.
so this is my question to you guys. do any of you have a stock pouch and would like a belt pouch? I'd be willing to trade. if not, do any of you have a stock pouch you'd be willing to sell?
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Old 09-11-2006, 03:23 PM   #2
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The "stock pouches" were not originally designed that way. The ones used that way were intended for a belt, too. Instead of two straps, they hav a wides panel of material attached at the top and bottom, with a snap in the middle. The snap is intended to attach to a belt to keep it in place. During the War, GI's issued carbines found that these could fit over the stock if they removed the action and shoved them down from the front. They can be tight that way, and the snap might gouge a nick in the stock. If you have a pretty stock, you might not like that. My stock ain't pretty -- but it still does perfectly fine as a stock, so, yeah, I had one among a group of pouches that my father had brought back with his carbine (which I inherited) that was a "stock" pouch, so I put it on.
They should be available maybe at gunshows...I think you can get repros from "Cheaper Than Dirt."
Anyhow...that's the story of the infamous M-1 Carbine Mag Pouch -- er, stock pouch.
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thanks for the info, I wasn't planning on putting it on my nice rockola wood i wanted to put it on a plainfield i have so messin the stock up doesnt matter much I'll definatly check out the cheaper than dirt repros (just got another magaizine in the mail from them today lol)
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I was watching the TV show "COMBAT!" on DVD the other day and I noticed that Lt. Handley's stock pouch is actually a belt pouch. I had to freeze frame the picture but it looks like the props experts took a belt pouch and modified the loops to have buckles so the pouch could be attached without breaking down the rifle. Pretty ingenious IMHO, and maybe you could do the same thing to mount your belt pouch on your Plainfield. You're going for utility, not historical accuracy.

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What you might have is a pouch that will accomodate both carbine mags and Garand clips. There was one made that would hold 2 Garand clips, and it had loops instead of the panelled back with the snap. It should be easy to tell, as it is pretty wide at the top to accomadate the Garand clips.
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When I was a kid back in the '60s, a surplus store not far from me sold the belt-only type carbine pouches for something like 25 or 50 cents apiece. I bought enough of them to make me a "Garand belt" with one of their 99c repro cotton web pistol belts. Stuffed all the pockets with matchbooks, BBs, firecrackers, candy, gum, and other cool junk every 10-year old needs. I think I still have that old rig around here somewhere, too.
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Old 09-12-2006, 12:39 PM   #7
 
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rfa0 thats interesting and a neat idea was it something like the buckles from the sling? cuz i could picture that working

arby believe it or not, Ive never fired a m1 garand b4 so I have no idea the actual size of the clips but the pouchs seem to be the same size from top to bottom

snak45 thats quite hilarious ! sneakin thru the neighborhood gum and bb's jinginlgn blowin bubbles shootin at your friends with your cap guns!! lol
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They looked like little belt buckles. I suppose you could just snip the 2 bands and sew velcro strips to them to make an easy and secure way of attaching the pouch to the stock.
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I have the show COMBAT! on DVD too, and noticed how Hanley's carbine had that pouch attached too. I could never figure out why they bothered tinkering with it....those real "stock pouches" must have been even more readily available in 1963 when that show started than they are now.
BTW -- if you watch the show carefully, you can see funny little bloopers only we carbine guys would ever notice.
SCENE 1: Hanley is in room A with carbine. CArbine has no bayonet lug.
SCENE#2: Hanley walks through door into room B, with carbine, which has now mysteriously grown a bayonet attachment.
SCENE #3: Hanley returns to room A, carbine now has no bayonet lug again.
Continuity!!!!
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common, those belt loop pouches will fit too....just pull REAL hard.
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lol ok audie.. I'll try it and if it doesnt fit you owe me the proper pouch! lmao!

btw i looked in cheaper than dirt all they have are the khaki ones I was hoping for an od one but eh ill settle since there only 6 bucks
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there are a lot of repros about. check some re-enactor websites...the quality is usually pretty good.
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Old 09-15-2006, 01:28 AM   #13
 
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just search google for ww2 re-enactors?? hmm

btw it didnt fit and i pulled REALLY REALLY HARD lmao!! igsfly:
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Old 09-15-2006, 09:04 AM   #14
 
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Stewart's Military Antiques sells nice original stuff. I bought a ww2 web belt that was like new from them a while back.

At the Front Militaria makes nice repros.

other reanactor sites are
What Price Glory
WW2 Impressions

and there are others.
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BTW -- if you watch the show carefully, you can see funny little bloopers only we carbine guys would ever notice.
SCENE 1: Hanley is in room A with carbine. CArbine has no bayonet lug.
SCENE#2: Hanley walks through door into room B, with carbine, which has now mysteriously grown a bayonet attachment.
SCENE #3: Hanley returns to room A, carbine now has no bayonet lug again.
Continuity!!!!
Same deal in Kelly's Heroes. Watch carefully for the rear sight "wings" on Clint's M1 Thompson. In the same scene, the gun will have, then not have, the wings, back and forth a couple times.
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Old 09-15-2006, 01:28 PM   #16
 
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stewart's has the same style mag pouches I already have, at the front has the proper type in khaki. b4 I buy that one I must know if they made the particular version I am looking for in od if not ill go for this one .
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You can always tell them apart at a glance. Just look for the two small gromets. If they are there, then its a belt type with the loops. If they are missing, then it should fit the stock. It don't get more simple than that!
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except for the fact that I have no idea what these gromets of which you speak are

edit: just looked at the pouch I have you mean those metal ring things right? ok thanks now I know what to look for when no rear picture is provided
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Yup, those two little brass circles at the bottom edge. They were used for the hooks on other pouches like med kits, grenade sights, bayonet scabbards, etc...You won't find those on the "stock" pouch.
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definatly not, and I found one on ebay bidding on it as we speak WOoT its going on my "tacticool" plainfield carbine gonna put an ultimak rail on it and an eotech.
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