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Old 09-10-2005, 05:03 PM   #1
 
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Most desireable Carbine mfgr?

Suppose you were in a gun shop that had one M1 Carbine of every WWII USGI manufacture. Assume that all carbines were in equally excellent condition and all were mixmaster guns. In what order would you rate their desirability and value?
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Re: Most desireable Carbine mfgr?

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Suppose you were in a gun shop that had one M1 Carbine of every WWII USGI manufacture. Assume that all carbines were in equally excellent condition and all were mixmaster guns. In what order would you rate their desirability and value?
Some collectors don't count Irwin Pedersen, but that would be my first choice. 2nd would be a Rockola. It's a toss up between the rest. 3rd would probably be a Winchester just because of the name.
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My favorates are the IBM's. Thay may just be because I work in IT and am a huge computer nerd.
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Old 09-11-2005, 07:36 AM   #5
 
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It really depends on whether "desirability" is based on 'collectability' or 'shootability'.

If it's "shootability" my personal vote would go to a late (i. e., late '44 into '45) Inland &/or a late Winchester.

If it's "collectability" I would "go" with very, very early Inland's or Winchester's, Rocks, SS'G'/I-P's and then, IBM's. This is, of course, excluding some of the very collectable 'line-outs', something like an Unquality, any one of the Underwood subcontractor variants, an M1A1, et. al. As an aside, my impression has always been that the likes of QHMC and STD. PROD., Carbines seem to have less collector interest/desirability than some of the others mentioned.
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Old 09-11-2005, 08:05 AM   #6
 
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I believe the late Inland to be the best carbine in the strictly practical sense. For collectibility, you would pick the most rare.
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Old 09-11-2005, 10:07 AM   #7
 
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If you could find someone that had all variations and manufactures available to pick and choose from that would be great! But in reality, as long as it's USGI, I would choose condition and or originality no matter the manufacturer any day. Give me 1 nice Standard Products over 2 messed with IP's any day. Just my 2 cents.
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Old 09-11-2005, 01:33 PM   #8
 
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I want an IBM, the name says it all, for what is an M1 carbine other than an International Business Machine.
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Old 09-11-2005, 01:35 PM   #9
 
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If you could find someone that had all variations and manufactures available to pick and choose from that would be great! But in reality, as long as it's USGI, I would choose condition and or originality no matter the manufacturer any day. Give me 1 nice Standard Products over 2 messed with IP's any day. Just my 2 cents.
I agree wholeheartedly with David's response, though, I think the original question stipulated the assumption that "all of the Carbines would be in equally excellent condition", et. al.
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Old 09-11-2005, 01:59 PM   #10
 
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You're right CBR, thanks, just got a little carried away.
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Old 09-11-2005, 04:44 PM   #11
 
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the most desireable carbine is the one you have
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Old 09-12-2005, 03:37 AM   #12
 
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If you have "carbineitis", its the next one you see!
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Old 09-13-2005, 01:11 PM   #13
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Rockola s rock ! It is the same juke box company .
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My favorates are the IBM's. Thay may just be because I work in IT and am a huge computer nerd.
[img]http://m1garand.net/M1Pics/Chris/IBM.jpg[/img]
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Old 09-14-2005, 12:53 AM   #15
 
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Great pic Icormba! An IBM with an IBM!

Actually the reason why I posted this thread was because I ran into a collector selling his carbines. He had about 8 carbines from Inland, Underwood, Rockola, IBM, and Winchester. I was totally excited but only had enough $$ to buy one. All were roughly in the same VG-EX condition. The stocks which varied in appearance but all the metal was great. I think that the only thing worse than not seeing any good guns to buy is seeing too many to buy at one time and having to pass on them...

I bought the Rockola
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I bought the Rockola
good choice!
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Old 09-16-2005, 01:25 PM   #17
 
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I had that Rockola for two weeks now and I still havent had a chance to shoot it! Its killing me!
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Old 09-16-2005, 08:15 PM   #18
 
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EXCELLENT Choice Kymas23!!!


Of course you couldn't have done bad with a Winchester as well.
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/rick1846/Message%20Board%20Pics/Carbines/57%20Winchester/rifle1a.jpg[/img]

Both rifles are 100% original and verified vet bring backs. The Rockola falls right in the middle of the first production run, the Winchester is a 5.7 million (Jun '44).

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Old 09-17-2005, 11:48 AM   #19
 
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I heard that Wincester Garands are a little roughly finished compared to other USGI manufacturers. Considering that the Winchesters still were accepted for USGI use, the rough finish was only aesthetic and not fuctionally problematic. Do the Winchester M1 Carbines have the same repuatation of being rough compared to the other USGI manufacturers?
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