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Old 09-08-2005, 05:08 PM   #1
 
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Chestnut Ridge Stain

I have been working on wood (mostly furniture) for a long time and have never used an alcohol based stain. Usually with oil based stains you start very light and in several coats build up to the desired darkeness...taking it back down involves some thinners and is usually a big mess.

The CR stain is real nice...you put it on thick and let it dry for several hours and it is RED...I mean, RED. but take a little isopropyl alcohol on a rag and wipe it on and then buff...and it starts to take it down...do this over and over until the shade is perfect. Much nicer than the other way round.

A few coats of linseed or tung oil and it should look great. I am working on an Inland H.I. stock, nice cartouche, nice circle P on the heel, AAD rebuild, little sanding...except... ...there is always an except in my "stock world", it has been sanded in the area of the trigger housing, about 1mm of mag well can be seen...not bad though...it will make a nice shooter.

At anyrate, try this stain, its pretty fool proof and looks real nice when you get the right "shade" of red on walnut. (It would not work with birch...I think it would be orange...yuk).
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Old 09-08-2005, 07:20 PM   #2
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Audie,
I have a birch potbelly stock. Any suggestions on how to darken it? I have a NPM that has been re-parked and it has a M2 stock that is almost as dark as walnut. I think the stock was refinished at the same time the gun was parked because I have seen several carbines at shows that look a lot like mine.
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Old 09-08-2005, 09:49 PM   #3
 
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Oil based stains like minwax take a long time to dry and generally I don't like them for stocks. I would suggest going to Brownell's website and buying Gale's gun stock dark walnut stain. It is alcohol based and would darken birch real nice. remember, though alcohol based stains need to be sealed, make sure to follow it with either BTO or BLO.
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Old 09-09-2005, 04:20 AM   #4
 
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Here's what I did with one of my birch stocks. I found a woodworker's supply store in my area; they carry all types of tools, materials, and finishing supplies. I found a good selection of alcohol based and water based stains there. I have tried both of them and prefer the alchohol based as water based will work on a stock that has been completely stripped, but if there is any amount of oil in the wood you're out of luck.
They had two versions of the alchohol stains. One that is in liquid form, and then some aniline dyes that were in powder form that you mix with alchohol. I think if you want to make your own custom color, the powder form works well as you can buy several colors and mix to your preference. I tried a little of both, and the premixed is obviously the simplest way to go. If you want, you can still mix different colors to get a shade you like.
After trying several colors of the premixed stuff, I found that Bhelen's American Walnut worked well on birch if you want to get a darker brown rather than red color. After a couple of applications of stain, I rubbed it down with a rag wetted with alchohol; this evened out the color. Then topped it with one coat of a 50/50 mix of BLO and turpentine, followed by two to three coats of PURE tung oil with a few drops of Japan drier added. I bought a bottle of the pure tung oil when I got the stain. The drier just accelerated the drying time. It worked great! The tung oil gave it a hard, low luster finish that doesn't bleed oil and the color mimics walnut.
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Old 09-09-2005, 04:25 AM   #5
 
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Audie made me remember something about oil based stains; they are pigment based rather stains rather than a dye. Alchohol stains are a dye. The dyes penetrate the wood better and give a deeper, clearer color and the grain will show better with these. The pigment stains do not penetrate the wood very well, and tend to sit "on top" of the grain. Go with the alchohol as the other guys advised...you'll be much happier with the end result.
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Old 09-09-2005, 08:26 AM   #6
 
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I agree Tex. I first stained the stock with minwax oil based dark walnut, didn't like it...very uneven color. I haven't encounter this before, but I am guessing it is because the wood of gunstocks is not the highest quality (nor does it need to be...it is a gun, not a violin!), so the next day I GoJo-ed it off and got back to the bare wood and then used the alcohol stain...what a difference, it has been drying now for about 12 hours and it looks very very good....very even coverage and the underlying tones of the wood are nicely highlighted. I am sold on alcohol dye...but I have read they are very hard to remove once they are completely dry...is that so Tex?

Probably a good idea to try your mix on a bit of scrap birch before committing to the stock.
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Old 09-09-2005, 12:20 PM   #7
 
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As another thought/recommendation, I've seen Fiebing's (alcohol based) leather dye used quite effectively as a stain on birch Carbine (and Garand) stocks. Pickup the Light Brown, Dark Brown and/Cordovan Fiebing stains and then blend to match the color you are after.
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Old 09-09-2005, 12:43 PM   #8
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Old 09-10-2005, 05:29 AM   #9
 
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you guys are right on. Alcohol is the only way to go. easy and very forgiving. Chestnut is the BomB! but I wouldn't use it alone, even on a walnut stock. I took some before and after pics of some stocks I did. The cmp has on there site somewhere some recommendations on finishing stocks. On the 1903a3 I got, the stock was very dark, and could of never lighten it up to match the handguard, so I went dark. brownells R. Gale Co. dark walnut alcohol stain very light on stock and then a few heavy coats on the H.G. and then a even coat of Chestnut ridge and it looks nice. Let dry thoughly between coats. On the CMP garand I got. The birch stock, I first did just C.Ridge and it was to orange. So same treatment. 2 coats of the dark walnut alcohol stain. let dry. and then chestnut ridge. Looks good i think.
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Old 09-10-2005, 10:26 AM   #10
 
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Nice, that is about the color I have. I did not use the gale stain first, but the walnut was very dark to begin with. I will use that on my next stock though to darken it a bit.

What did you seal it with? I am now starting to hand rub a few very thin coats of tung oil.
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Old 09-10-2005, 04:09 PM   #11
 
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i used minwax tung oil. I like that it dries fast. A light coat, then hit it with some steal wool to knock down the sheen. Someday I will try pure tung oil if I can get my hands on some.

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Old 09-10-2005, 07:56 PM   #12
 
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I use the minwax too, seems to do a nice job.
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