m1 carbine describe difference between type 2 and 3 extractor

02-28-2005, 01:13 AM

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TABLE OF CONTENTS

Click on the link below to go to the correct page immediately:

Bolt assembly/disassembly pictorial (this page)
.30 Carbine cartridge dimensions (page 2)
Trigger spring tool tutorial (page 2)
Highwood & Lowwood stock comparison (page 2)
Push safety types (page 2)
Carbine Club Data Sheet (page 2)
Alternative Data Listing (page 2)
Firing pin types (page 3)
Extractor types (page 3)
Ejector types (page 3)

Now, we start off with some basics, the tool and the bolt part names sp we are all on the same page. Note the notches in the ejector and firing pin as this is where the "shank" of the extractor goes through and holds everything in place:

02-28-2005, 01:31 AM

Now, the "Ten Step" method of disassembly/reassembly:

02-28-2005, 01:48 AM

Well, after 3 tries, I guess it won't let me put more than four pictures to a post, so we'll do this the hard way, Step 5 being the last of disassembly, and Step 6 the first of reassembly:

02-28-2005, 01:59 AM

Almost done:

02-28-2005, 02:06 AM

Here is the cheapo flip-up plastic magnifying headset I use, they work very well and have several lenses that flip down increasing magnification:

1st Maine · 02-28-2005, 02:35 AM

Nicely done Wayne. That takes the mystery out of it for me! I'll have to try it out tonight when I get home. Been putting it off as I wasn't totally clear on how everything was supposed to go with the tool.

Big Foot · 02-28-2005, 03:30 AM

Wayne,
This is the most helpful post to date, at least for me...For this visual/hands-on learner: I want a stab at this...
Where did you say one can purchase the tool?
Thanks again..

AussieM1A · 02-28-2005, 06:20 AM

wayne
between your pictures and Audies desciption i think all of us newbies should have a handle on it know.
thanks again

Audie · 02-28-2005, 07:03 AM

Seeing is the best thing...the lighted magnifier is a nice addition to your carbine tools!

02-28-2005, 03:30 PM

Boy, aint that the truth Audie. I always had 20-20 vision until I hit 50 two years ago, now I can't see small print. I cannot read a map anymore, without magnification, but I can still read books, etc. Long distance is no problem, but tiny print is just a blur. It's such a thrill to get older.

I have a request to do a Trigger pictorial, so I'll start on that later. It's even easier than the bolt!

Model 1076 · 02-28-2005, 03:30 PM

Outstanding job! Even I am confident I could do that job myself. I notice alot of raised metal around holes and rough tooling marks, etc. on the bolt and extractor. Does it pay or, is it worthwhile to clean all that stuff up? (Yes, I am a metal guy, thats why I ask.)

Josh

02-28-2005, 03:45 PM

I don't think it would hurt anything Josh, but if it didn't bother them when they made it (and Ordnance was FUSSY), it doesn't bother me. Keep in mind, those are very high resolution close-ups, 1284X1024 taken with my Sony Mavica camera, which specializes in close-ups, so they aren't readily visible to the naked eye. I have to take them through Photo-Shop and crop them to get them small enough to post, as they come out over 500KB usually.

The only problem I keep having, is I can get so close, the flash is out of the picrure!

corvetteed · 02-28-2005, 05:04 PM

sweet! how much dose the tool cost?? is their some way to save posts like this so they stay on the first page??

03-01-2005, 01:44 AM

Not yet, but coming soon! I don't want to make it a "sticky", as pretty soon the first four pages would be all stickys!
New software is being installed and tested as I type this, which will include an "Archive" part of M1 Carbine. We'll keep these in there once it's up and running. Don't forget, you can always click on my screenname and at my profile, click on "all posts". That gives a chance to choose and pick which ones you want to see.
Feel free to save any or all of these pics into a file on your computer for future reference. I have them under: Bolt tool tutorial where I can find them again, probably.

Cryto · 03-01-2005, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wayneCP01

Not yet, but coming soon! I don't want to make it a "sticky", as pretty soon the first four pages would be all stickys!

Instead of having the first 4 pages sticky, why not make one FAQ page, and link them to the proper web pages/forum threads? That way, ONE page should be able to answer a lot of the initial (and often repeated) questions/threads.

Of course, then you need to get people to READ it.

jimb16 · 03-01-2005, 07:17 AM

That is an excellent suggestion. We could include all of those high wood/ low wood and parts type questions. But I think we would want to avoid the is this a fake ones. No point in giving the humpers a ready reference on what is wrong with their parts!

skslover · 03-01-2005, 07:41 AM

Thanks Wayne! Now all I've got to do is pick up one of those tools.

Cryto · 03-01-2005, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimb16

That is an excellent suggestion. We could include all of those high wood/ low wood and parts type questions. But I think we would want to avoid the is this a fake ones. No point in giving the humpers a ready reference on what is wrong with their parts!

True.

But with everything in one place it will be a lot easier to get the information needed. Could have up a list of the manufacturers, parts, etc.

I'll leave all the work for this up to the moderators though. I know you guys need something to do..

Claven2 · 03-01-2005, 10:24 AM

In the meantime though, this topic should be sticky'd, no?

03-01-2005, 11:50 AM

Well, this IS your forum, and these kinds of decisions are best left up to the members. I'll make this one a sticky, and we can add others to this one, no more new stickys. How's that? I'll rename it: "Carbine Information Archive", and we can link to this one post.

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02-28-2005, 02:35 AM	#6
1st Maine Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 236	Nicely done Wayne. That takes the mystery out of it for me! I'll have to try it out tonight when I get home. Been putting it off as I wasn't totally clear on how everything was supposed to go with the tool.

02-28-2005, 03:30 AM	#7
Big Foot Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 17	Wayne, This is the most helpful post to date, at least for me...For this visual/hands-on learner: I want a stab at this... Where did you say one can purchase the tool? Thanks again..

02-28-2005, 06:20 AM	#8
AussieM1A Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 104	wayne between your pictures and Audies desciption i think all of us newbies should have a handle on it know. thanks again

02-28-2005, 07:03 AM	#9
Audie Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,207	Seeing is the best thing...the lighted magnifier is a nice addition to your carbine tools!

02-28-2005, 03:30 PM	#10
Guest Posts: n/a	Boy, aint that the truth Audie. I always had 20-20 vision until I hit 50 two years ago, now I can't see small print. I cannot read a map anymore, without magnification, but I can still read books, etc. Long distance is no problem, but tiny print is just a blur. It's such a thrill to get older. I have a request to do a Trigger pictorial, so I'll start on that later. It's even easier than the bolt!

02-28-2005, 03:30 PM	#11
Model 1076 Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 58	Outstanding job! Even I am confident I could do that job myself. I notice alot of raised metal around holes and rough tooling marks, etc. on the bolt and extractor. Does it pay or, is it worthwhile to clean all that stuff up? (Yes, I am a metal guy, thats why I ask.) Josh

02-28-2005, 03:45 PM	#12
Guest Posts: n/a	I don't think it would hurt anything Josh, but if it didn't bother them when they made it (and Ordnance was FUSSY), it doesn't bother me. Keep in mind, those are very high resolution close-ups, 1284X1024 taken with my Sony Mavica camera, which specializes in close-ups, so they aren't readily visible to the naked eye. I have to take them through Photo-Shop and crop them to get them small enough to post, as they come out over 500KB usually. The only problem I keep having, is I can get so close, the flash is out of the picrure!

02-28-2005, 05:04 PM	#13
corvetteed Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 634	sweet! how much dose the tool cost?? is their some way to save posts like this so they stay on the first page??

03-01-2005, 01:44 AM	#14
Guest Posts: n/a	Not yet, but coming soon! I don't want to make it a "sticky", as pretty soon the first four pages would be all stickys! New software is being installed and tested as I type this, which will include an "Archive" part of M1 Carbine. We'll keep these in there once it's up and running. Don't forget, you can always click on my screenname and at my profile, click on "all posts". That gives a chance to choose and pick which ones you want to see. Feel free to save any or all of these pics into a file on your computer for future reference. I have them under: Bolt tool tutorial where I can find them again, probably.

03-01-2005, 07:17 AM	#16
jimb16 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: N.E.Ohio Posts: 3,218	That is an excellent suggestion. We could include all of those high wood/ low wood and parts type questions. But I think we would want to avoid the is this a fake ones. No point in giving the humpers a ready reference on what is wrong with their parts!

03-01-2005, 07:41 AM	#17
skslover Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,198	Thanks Wayne! Now all I've got to do is pick up one of those tools.

03-01-2005, 10:24 AM	#19
Claven2 Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 439	In the meantime though, this topic should be sticky'd, no?

03-01-2005, 11:50 AM	#20
Guest Posts: n/a	Well, this IS your forum, and these kinds of decisions are best left up to the members. I'll make this one a sticky, and we can add others to this one, no more new stickys. How's that? I'll rename it: "Carbine Information Archive", and we can link to this one post.