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Old 03-29-2006, 11:59 AM   #1
 
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Makarov - where to get

Just wondering if anyone knows who still carries Makarovs. Looks like there are not quite as many on the auction sites. Was thinking of one for CCW.

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Old 03-29-2006, 12:57 PM   #2
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The ranks are getting thinner out there. Expect to pay about $200 for a Bulgie and $350 or more for an E.G.

Makarov.com has some nice E.G's for $350.

Remember, just because it fires the 9x18 and says Makarov on the slide doesn't mean it's a true Mak. There is no such thing as a Polish or Hungarian Makarov.
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Thanks ed, that reflects about what I have been seeing. Last year, there were plenty. I could go into many gun shops, and see a couple. Now, they are getting pretty thin. There have been a few on the auction sites.

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Any particular reason the Bulgarian guns are cheaper?
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The East German guns are considered to have the finest fit and finish. They are also harder to come by.

The bulgies are usually excellent guns, very close to the E.G.'s and the one to get if you want a shooter and not a collector.

I just checked Makarov.com and it looks like they have sold their latest batch of E.G's and only have a couple Arsenal brand Bulgies that are higher than usual.

Another gun to consider that fires the 9X18 round is the CZ82/83. Makarov.com is taking orders for the 83(civilian version) but you can get a nice 82 from SOG for about $249. 12 +1 capacity in a TDA that is very sturdy and well made. Been thinking about one myself.
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Ed, actually had been looking at one of the cz's last year when SOG, think it was, had first started carrying them. They were considered to be pretty good, but for some reason when I posted about them as a possible ccw piece, they got moderate consideration. It may have been b/c they were just being imported. Are they similar in size to the makarov? I have a decent 9mm that can serve for carry, but want to keep my eyes open for something for hotter weather, thus smaller.

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The usual complaint is they are a little big for a sub 9mm Parabelum cartridge.

Check out what Stephen Camp has to say.
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makarov all dried up, from the major importers and distrubutors . the only place you will them now is on the secondary markets ie. FS boards.......but you will pay a lot more then what they were being sold from the distubutors. new bulgarians were being sold for about 120 retail.....now those same bulgarians are going for 200+ and they are used.
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Yup, that's what I am finding out Slowfire. Had wanted to pick up a couple, but had already maxed out my purchases and thought that I could get them later.

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I've carried a CZ 83 before and it is certainly doable. It is also a very enjoyable gun to shoot. The one thing I found which I didn't like when carrying it is that the triggerguard is disproporionately large and makes finding a good holster a little harder than it should be. I would certainly reccomend them to anyone who isn't looking for the absolutely smallest thing out there.

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Yup, that's what I am finding out Slowfire. Had wanted to pick up a couple, but had already maxed out my purchases and thought that I could get them later.

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you can still get a P-64........it isn't a makarov, but fires the same caliber, and are about the same size, maybe a bit smaller(?), they can be found from the distubutors for around 150 or so bucks......the importers and distrubutors mis-advertise them as "polish makarovs", other then the caliber they are 2 totally different pistols,

there are also the hungarian ones, PA-63.....fires the 9x18 about the same size as makarov.
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slowfire, how are the P64's? Have seen them but do not recall reading much good or bad. They are a nice size, especially for a backup.

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Think I found my answer. Double action trigger is very hard. Seem pretty good, but considered a bit inferior to the Makarov. Might look at one if price is right though.
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The FEG PA-63 (Hungarian) in 9x18 is a nice pistol. It's like a cross between a MAK and a Walther and has an aluminum frame. They're about $139.
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Since the price of Maks are rising, the Cz-82 might be a better deal
http://www.southernohiogun.com/surplushandguns.html

$249 plus whatever your dealer charges, 13 rounds 9x18 and Cz quality.

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Old 04-03-2006, 06:59 AM   #15
 
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I've fiddled with some CZs, before, and I have to say they have the best SA trigger of any DA pistol you'll ever find, IMO.
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Old 04-12-2006, 07:55 PM   #16
 
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I got a Bulgarian Mak and I love it. One problem I have found with the 9x18 is that it's a goofy caliber and ammo is hard to come by without having to order it. Most ammo suppliers carry it, but buy it by the case to save money.

But there is fix, replace the barrel with a .380, but ammo is about 20 bucks per 100 at Wal-Mart for the .380. So I am about to buy a case of 9x18 once I get my Tax return. It's cheaper.
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Old 04-14-2006, 07:07 PM   #17
 
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Alright fellas, finally wondered into a dealer that had all three of the smaller pistols mentioned, in addition to about everything else one could want. Now after handling them, I am really partial to the CZ for size, comfort, and capacity. The p-63 is my next favorite (and very economical), followed by the p-64 (also very economical). Any of the three would make a nice CCW piece (if nothing else as a backup). So I am wondering where the best place to get a CZ, or any of the other 3 would be. The shop that I went to had a great selection, but with the exception of a couple of other CZ models, seemed a little high on most things. Thanks in advance.

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Makarov.com still has a few CZ 83's left in the black polycoat for $319.
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