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Old 02-10-2005, 09:02 PM   #1
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What do I have here ?
S&W- 5 screw ? 4 on side plate, 1 in top front of trigger guard.
# 5741xx under barrel
Barrel number is on bottom of barrel above the cylinder base pin.
the number on bottom of grip is the 574( rest is rusted out).
48584 in yoke area
Rear cylinder number 5741xx
Left side of barrel marked "SMITH & WESSON."
Right side of barell marked" S&W SPEICAL CTG"
MADE IN (rusted out) on right front side.
38 special fits cylinder. (cant read cal. bad pitting)
The grips are checkered walnut with a diamond around the screw.
Bore is good and the gun locks up tight.
I need 2 of the side plate screws(top and back) but know nothing about the older Smiths.

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Old 02-11-2005, 12:25 AM   #2
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Had a buddy in the same situation- I posted at the S&W forum (not this site) and got results and lots of answers in less than two hours----- down to the month the gun was made and what parts are interchangeable with what.

I'll look fo rthe link but its a S&W fan club site.

Good luck

(PS- WHAT does BOTH/EACH side of the barrel say; my buddies said CTG.... which certainly helped id the thing)
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Old 02-11-2005, 03:57 AM   #3
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I am a member on that board but my password didn't work.
Trying to get it or a new one.
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Old 02-11-2005, 05:02 AM   #4
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I'm not entirely sure when they started, but at some point S&W started putting the model number on the frame under part of the cylinder. Swing it out and see if there are any numbers that you can see. They should be in the general vacinity of the barrel, IIRC.
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Old 02-11-2005, 05:11 AM   #5
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OK, though I'm not an S&W expert, I'll lead out on the limb; Most likely it's a fairly early Military & Police revolver. Later (sometime in the '50s, I think) when they started assigning model numbers, M&Ps became the Model 10.
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Old 02-11-2005, 07:28 AM   #6
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Maybe this will help some.

I'm pretty sure you are right and that is a precursor to the Model 10, but I don't know where I put my resources on S&W revolvers.
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Old 02-11-2005, 08:06 AM   #7
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The proper designation is:

.38 Hand Ejector Military & Police is did become the Model 10

But yours is technically the .38 M&P Second Model First Change. It was manufactured from 1903-1905 in a serial number range of 33,804-62,449.

It's too bad the condition isn't great because that isn't a very common model.

You should be able to get the screws from http://www.egunparts.com
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Old 02-20-2005, 08:51 AM   #8
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Thank you all
That's what I needed to know.
Screws have been ordered.
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Old 02-20-2005, 06:01 PM   #9
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If the S.N is 5741xx it is a M&P model of 1905 4th change.The other # quoted is an assembly number.S.N is on the butt,bottom of the bbl and back of cylinder.Screws will fit.
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