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Old 05-13-2020, 04:43 PM   #1
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9x19mm Pistol to .38 Super??

Friends,

As a result of us getting prepared to move overseas, where my beloved 9mm pistols are ILLEGAL TO POSSESS, I need to find a CHAMBER REAMER to convert 9x19mm to .38SUPER caliber.
OR
I would pay a gunsmith to do the RECHAMBERING for me.
(It's not much a job, if you have the tool.)

I have had ZERO luck finding a chamber reamer to rent OR a gunsmith to do the job.

ANY ADVICE would be appreciated, other than "Go buy another pistol".

yours, sw

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Old 05-13-2020, 06:25 PM   #2
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stand watie, take a look here:

https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-t...prod17655.aspx

About the 7th one down is a .38 super reamer.
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Old 05-13-2020, 10:29 PM   #3
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THANKS, sw
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Old 05-14-2020, 10:27 AM   #4
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Actually, there's another way out: the 9x21 mm. Developed for those countries where the 9x19 mm is verboten. Factory ammo is available, don't know supply situation where you're going.

Would probably avoid magazine issues too.
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Old 05-14-2020, 01:08 PM   #5
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THANKS for the info. - Frankly, I don't know whether 9x21mm is available there or not.
(A Captain of the local National Police suggested that I buy/carry a .38 Super as "That's what we all carry." AND "If you desire to carry a 9mm Luger caliber firearm you have to explain to a judge WHY some other caliber is both unreasonable & unacceptable to ask you to carry. I don't think that a judge would believe that.")

9x19mm ammo, cases & firearms are (with .45ACP, 9x18mm MAK, 5.56NATO, 7.62x51NATO, 7.62x39mm & several other sorts of ammo) considered to be "Weapons of War" & those sorts of firearms & ammo are ONLY generally available to the armed forces of the republic, without a "special exemption from the courts"..
(Oddly, 7x57mm, 7.92x57mm & .30-06 ARE Legal, despite the MILLIONS of such firearms that world military forces have issued & are currently being used.)

Fwiw, I don't know if ANY 9x21mm components (mostly the brass cases for Boxer priming) are even AVAILABLE there. OTOH, .38 Super is widely available at any number of retail stores.

INTERESTING FACT: By act of the national government, NO single individual may own or possess more than 10 percent of the total arms & ammunition in the combined possession of the military forces & police agencies of the nation.
(I was told that a family's adults may EACH possess up to 10% of that total.)

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What country are you going to?

What 9MM pistols do you want to take there? Depending on what you have, you will not be able to use the 38 Super magazines. Over all length for the 38 Super round is near max is 1.260" and for the 9MM round is 1.169" max.

Reaming a 9x19 chamber to 38 Super? When you fire 38 Super rounds, your brass will bulge upon firing. 9x19 brass near the base is larger than the 38 Super.

If you have a 1911 chambered for 9MM, get a 38 Super barrel and 38 Super magazines. You might have to adjust the extractor - It might be a little tight for the 38 Super.
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FIRST, WELCOME ABOARD. - You have found what I believe is THE BEST gun forum on the Worldwideweird.

The "problem" has essentially "been overcome by events". = At 1430 this PM, I talked to a nice lady (who I've talked to & placed orders with several times) who said, "I believe that we have enough factory parts in .38 Super to make up a whole parts kit. Then assemble the parts on a bare 1911 frame & you're all set."

She said that she would call me tomorrow (Friday) or Monday to tell me if her "parts search" in the warehouse was successful. - She also said that IF they don't have everything, that I'll only need to look for a few small parts & a stripped 1911 frame.
(I may well have enough small parts in my "junk drawer")

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If the barrel isn't a fairly recent production set up to head space on the case mouth rather than the rim, you may find the accuracy rather disappointing.
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I've put off asking as long as I can: Why on earth are you moving to a nation so unfree that you're not allowed to own a simple stupid 9mm handgun?

I live in the Democrat People's Republic of a Blue State, and I long to move to a place that is MORE free, not LESS.
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SW,

Thanks. Signed up awhile back but haven't been on. Had to get a new password. Took awhile on that too.

Glad that you are able to get the parts.
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Snake, the .38 Super has a long and respected history, especially here in Texas. Back during the 1920s and 30s it was a favored caliber for a 1911 carried by Texas Rangers. Yes, many still packed the Colt SAA Peacemaker.
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Come to think of it, if you're converting a 1911 in 9 mm, why do you need another frame? I think we tossed around the Super .38/9 mm thingie a couple years ago. In many cases, a barrel and magazines, possibly different extractor and you're ready to go. Unless that one is gonna stay in the US in storage.

OK, slide markings, if any, might be a problem.
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Snake, the .38 Super has a long and respected history, especially here in Texas. Back during the 1920s and 30s it was a favored caliber for a 1911 carried by Texas Rangers. Yes, many still packed the Colt SAA Peacemaker.
Not disputing that. Has nothing to do with what I asked.
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Snake45,

Check your mail, por favor.


BTW, .38 SUPER in any number of formats is CLEARLY superior to ANY 9x19mm ammo & W/O exceeding SAMMI specs for handguns. = One "custom loader" claims 1300FPS & 456# of ME from a GM barrel.

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.38 SUPER in any number of formats is CLEARLY superior to ANY 9x19mm ammo & W/O exceeding SAMMI specs for handguns. = One "custom loader" claims 1300FPS & 456# of ME from a GM barrel.

yours, sw
Again, that's not the point in question.
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Again, that's not the point in question.
Snake45,

Nonetheless, I believe that you understand the situation.

Inasmuch as the nation, to which we are planning to move to, WILL ALLOW me to own & fire a MAXIM GUN in 7x57mm Mauser caliber anyplace that I choose as a SAFE PLACE (a MAXIM is NOT considered to be either a firearm and/or "a deadly weapon" there; instead it is a ANTIQUE/CURIO.), I guess that their STUPID firearms policies on "weapons of war" & some of the EQUALLY STUPID US anti-gun regulations are "a wash".

ADDENDA: The last time I was "way down yonder", 7x57mm Ball was <2 cents each, American, by the thousand & in linen belts. = At anything near that price per round, I can afford to enjoy my ANTIQUE/CURIO, even at 800RPM.

FWIW, presuming that we do move OCONUS, I plan to find & train a pair of horses to pull the gun/ammo cart.
(It's never too late to have a second boyhood. - SHE thinks that my interest in owning & "playing with" a Devil's Paintbrush is "charming"/amusing.)

yours, sw

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SW are you finally making it south I know you have been thinking it for a few years and I know at one point you missed Caracas?They shoot Americans there.... Kevin
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Too far South, Javlin.
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Old 05-25-2020, 06:52 AM   #19
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Javlin,

TRUE FACT. = The Communists have RUINED my much loved VZ for I fear (unfortunately) decades.

In January I talked to a former staffer of HQ, MTT-OAS FWD about current conditions there.
(Raoul & his wife/kids ESCAPED last fall from VZ & are now residing in Mexico.)

His comment was: "Commandante, do not EVEN consider returning to Caracas anytime soon as it is far too dangerous for our own citizens, much less former foreign service people." (PAUSE) "I am also saddened to tell you that La Casa de la Sombra now looks nothing like you remember your home, as the criminals of Maduro's group of thieves 'carried off' everything that they wanted & then the house was looted by other people for something to sell. That situation is typical as Caracas is now a lawless, sad, dangerous place & solely populated with only poor, dispirited & desperate people, who were unable to escape the current situation."

yours, sw

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"Caracas is now a lawless, sad, dangerous place & solely populated with only poor, dispirited & desperate people, who were unable to escape the current situation."

yours, sw
I HOPE AND PRAY that's not a "preview of coming attractions" for the US.
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