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Old 03-29-2019, 06:09 PM   #21
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I'm with Doughboy and M118 on this.
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Old 03-29-2019, 06:59 PM   #22
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Mike, even the US Government only allows SF or NSW members to carry Glocks. Perhaps there is a reason why Big Green & the CNO electected to arm the "Troops" with the M9. More food for thought.
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mike.strock,

IF you are intent on a semi-auto, at least consider a QUALITY & SIMPLE to use pistol (like a Beretta M9 or Sig-Sauer M11), that has a MANUAL SAFETY. = IF you would take the advice of an old firearms instructor (I've had my instructor's permit from HQUSAMPS since 1972.) & get a REVOLVER first.

As I've said several times elsewhere on this forum, I really believe that even newly sworn peace officers should be issued a .38SPL revolver by Colt, Ruger or S&W with a 4" barrel.
(In the days when I taught pistol/shotgun at a TX police academy, we had MANY new officers, who arrived at the academy & who had NEVER even held a loaded handgun. - After only 2 range days, over 70% of rookies qualified with their revolver & by Friday of Range Week I cannot recall a rookie who didn't qualify with their .38SPL revolver.)

just my OPINION, sw

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Old 03-30-2019, 03:05 PM   #24
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My heartburn with the GLOCK™ comes from the fact that it points higher than just about everything else out there.
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Old 03-31-2019, 04:17 AM   #25
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Well, there is an odd option no one has mentioned.

The pistol with a .22 Conversion unit.

Many moons agone I bought a Colt Series 70 Mk IV with the dreaded fingers and a Colt .22 Conversion unit. I still have both. I have been neglecting them in favor of the 9mms and my .22 pistols and revolver.

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Who notes Glock and Beretta have factory units.
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Old 03-31-2019, 07:35 AM   #26
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My heartburn with the GLOCKô comes from the fact that it points higher than just about everything else out there.
Well, there's that. For me, it's the fact that there's just no pride in owning one. To me it's an uninspiring, unattractive, soulless, generic lead dispenser, an appliance. Glocks look like they should be sold in blister packages from vending machines. Yawn.
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Old 03-31-2019, 02:50 PM   #27
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Back in 2006 I saw a great picture showing an appropriate use for a Glock. The picture showed one of those "In Case of Emergency, Break Glass" boxes. A S&W M&P9 was in the box, a Glock dangled by a chain as the glass breaker.
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Was GLOCK what brought about Waldo Lydecker's coming up with the term "krunchenticker?"
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Old 03-31-2019, 04:01 PM   #29
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William R Moore,

ROTFLMRAO. = I like it.

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Old 03-31-2019, 05:48 PM   #30
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Perhaps it's time that I chimed in. A model 21 Glock (or 21SF) in the right hands is a formidable opponent. But that is in the right hands!

Otherwise, it may not be as usable!
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Old 03-31-2019, 05:57 PM   #31
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HOW MANY have fired themselves, while still holstered??
(When the METRO PD of Washington DC adopted the Glock 9mm, several officers had ND while the pistols were actually in the holster & while the LEO was entering/exiting their patrol vehicle.)

I was also present on the range at Ft George Meade when a slide came off a USPS Inspector's pistol while he was firing for qualification & hit him between the eyes.
(I saw the results of that incident & the fellow's facial wound didn't "look too pretty", when the EMS unit picked him up & transported him to the ER.)

I wouldn't own a "plastic [email protected]@rd" if they were giving them away.

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Was GLOCK what brought about Waldo Lydecker's coming up with the term "krunchenticker?"
Krunchenticker was coined by Cooper himself, to denote a double-action auto, where the first trigger pull was the "krunchen" and the later pulls would be the "tickers," therefore, not applying to Glocks.

It was Dean, I believe, who coined "Ka-boom" though re: Glocks.

Cooper had a penchant for the German habit of combining words to make new words.
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It's been about 10 years since I've heard a peep out of Dean. I mailed him a post Gun Boy put up on another board.
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I think "crunchenticker" was originally applied to the Sig-Sauer series of TDA autos. Having fired them, I think it appropriate. Sig had, at least at that time, a very short, heavy DA pull followed by a short 4 lb SA. It later got applied across the board along with the label of a solution to a non-existent problem, which wasn't exactly true.
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Old 04-18-2019, 09:37 AM   #35
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Thank you for your thoughts. I am reconsidering a Glock at this time.

Still looking at 9mm, but a Taurus G2C. Still a ways off, have some hospital bills to pay off (colon cancer is a bitch).

Thanks for your thoughts. I appreciate it.

Mike.
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I think "crunchenticker" was originally applied to the Sig-Sauer series of TDA autos.
I suspect it predates that. I'm guessing the Walther P-38 or the Smith & Wesson 39.
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Not sure about that...or at least I never read it until after the BDA/Sig Sauer 220 hit the market. But not worth arguing about it. A quick skim through Cooper On Handguns showed he did do experiments with P-38's shortly after WWII but didn't cook up the term in question at the time of publication-or at least didn't use it.

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mike.strock,

Darla joins me in praying for your swift & complete recovery from your illness.

yours, Darla & sw
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SW - Thanks. I'm doing great. Feel great. Every day I wake up alive is a good day.



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SW - Thanks. I'm doing great. Feel great. Every day I wake up alive is a good day.



Mike.
OK, we all got our ditty bag to drag. But it ain't like "Now I lay me down to sleep, pray the Lord my soul to keep. If I should die before I wake"

How about? Now I lay me down to sleep, pray the Lord my soul to keep, watch over me throughout the night and wake me with the mourning light.

Now from sunrise to well past sunset you can put your faith in a Glock provided you do your part.

If you can't do your part, well perhaps there isn't a sidearm that will make up for your shortcomings?

There are two schools of thought: if you are good enough any firearm will suffice, if your not good enough dose any firearm suffice?

Is there a notable difference between the first firearm you should purchase and the last firearm you actually purchase?

Experience. JMHO.

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