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Old 01-17-2012, 05:44 PM   #1
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WWII Army Pistol Training Film

"Combat Firing with Hand Guns" from 1944. It shows remarkably modern techniques of gun-handling. Of course, there's lots of room for pickiness
I'd love to have a case of tracers; they were sure useful!
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The instructor who’s demonstrating straight up has some skills. Lack of modern technique doesn’t seem to be hindering him in the least. One hand instinctive shooting is a very useful skill. In force on force training the ability to shoot effectively in, shall I say “improvised stances”. Shooting over the shoulder as you’re running and screaming like a little girl…okay, maybe not so much over the shoulder, but one handed point shooting while on the move or literally diving for cover. I have practiced point shooting for years (but almost exclusively with revolvers), and in force on force training, that paid off. I was the king of the “lucky shot”, many times scoring on my attacker while retreating, by snapping off a quick pointed shot. I’m a dedicated advocate of the modern technique, but I believe the “complete” handgunner should spend time point shooting. Air guns, air soft, or low powered rounds such as CB caps in your .22 are great ways to practice this.
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Wow...did you see how he customized that 1911?

First, it looks like he took off the extended magwell and the adjustable night sights. Then he somehow flattened the mainspring housing and ground down the memory bump on the grip safety.

Next, he seems to have ground off the forward slide serrations, and the front strap checkering, then somehow raised and closed up the ejection port. Then he filed off the Picatinny rail, and polished off all of the serrations on top of the slide.

Finally, he must have installed a slightly loose bushing to get that "6 to 8 inch dispersion" at 25 yards, and I swear his mags only hold seven rounds (probably to lighten the thing up).

Radical.

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HA! Good one!!
CaptGyro, it took me a minute to get it...
Matter of fact, I'm quite partial to that sort of radical customizing myself.
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Capt Gyro, you need to post more.
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to all,

despite my affection for my Sig-Sauer P6 (as a hideout/daily-carry gun), i think that the plain vanilla Colt's Government Model is the BEST all-round handgun ever made.

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Pete:

Finally got to watch your video. Way Cool! A lot of techniques that are still valid some 70 + years later...somewhat modified perhaps (like the 2 handed grip) but valid.

The tracers are cool, but I don't know if I'd want a case of 'em. Wonder what two or three hundred would do to a pistol barrel?

Does the narration and music remind anyone else of all those films we watched back in grade school?

SW, agree on the 1911, but I must admit I like the modern touches on mine, and I don't think it's any harder to carry - or shoot, either.
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Are the techniques they're using those developed by Applegate and Fairburn?
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Col Applegate was a great promoter of point shooting, forget the sights he said.
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Col Applegate was a great promoter of point shooting, forget the sights he said.
Remember sights now days are a whole lot better than what we had back then. Thinking about my light pipe Novaks compared to the hump-n-bump on the Army issue 1911A1s. Shudder.

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The use of video in military training was a WWII US invention, and a good one. My late father was a medic and he said those films helped a heck of a lot....almost as much as a 3-day pass if the class passed the test on Thursday.

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The use of video in military training was a WWII US invention, and a good one. My late father was a medic and he said those films helped a heck of a lot....almost as much as a 3-day pass if the class passed the test on Thursday.

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Hollywood was patriotic back then. Lots of the top directors, stars, writers,
producers et cet, joined the service after Pearl Harbor. I'm not sure if they convinced the War Department or some bright people there thought it up, but they were allowed to use their talents to help the war effort in combat filmography, training films, etc.

A different time...
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