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Old 08-25-2010, 11:52 AM   #21
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Old 08-27-2010, 02:53 PM   #22
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H&K VP70 with single shot, burst, or fa settings, without a stock needed to change settings. maybe a switch at the base of the grip. Or single shot and triple burst settings.
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Old 12-15-2010, 01:20 PM   #23
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my "dream pistol" is a MAK in 9x19 Parabellum. - i think that such a piece is DOABLE, too.

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SW, shame the 9x18 is .360 or you could just ream it a little further. I've got a PA-63 in 9x18MAK, have to check on a 9mmPara barrel, see if anybody makes one.
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Guys,
Blowback 9x19 mm are possible, but not light, cross reference Hi-point. The Mak has a following, but I prefer the CZ-83 and a smaller pistol with a locked breach in .380 or 9x18 Mak, cross reference the SIG 380.

My current dream piece is a Ruger with a single column magazine in 9mm and the P-95 action and safety in a 6.5 x 4.5 size, smooth and melted.
Night sights of course and interchangeable grips. A .22LR Conversion unit with a pair of magazines in the package.

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Who likes small flat compact pistols, he can still get all his fingers around.
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Old 12-16-2010, 01:33 AM   #26
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I'll take a S&W M&P reduced to semi-auto Chief's Special size, in all four calibers.

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Who wants a positive safety on that as well.
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Old 12-16-2010, 08:50 AM   #27
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Looking forward to seeing how the build goes on the Rock Island frame/slide. You have an outstanding selection of parts for the rebuild! I really love the Kart barrels.

A while back, I ended up with a Springfield 1911 in partial payment for rebuilding the guy's other 1911. At this point, the only thing on the gun that is still Springfield is the frame and slide. Has a Kart barrel and bushing, Wilson disconnect, sear, hammer, safety and beaver-tail, Ed Brown bob-tail, short Grender trigger, thin grips, Novak Tritium sights, etc. It is well used at this point and goes everywhere with me. It should be refinished again, as the epoxy coating on the frame has worn off in spots. The slide is parkerized and still fine.

Would love to see photos when you are done of the finished gun!
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Old 12-16-2010, 10:48 AM   #28
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Here ya go Sean, Still working with the Beavertail. I'm currently talking with Wilson Combat. Tangs are in spec as is the thumb-safety pin-hole but the tail sticks out too far. Thinking they moved the hole out too far.



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Old 12-16-2010, 10:54 AM   #29
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Regardless, the pistol is shaping up to a very simple elegance. Very nice...I'm still a sucker for Parkerizing.
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Thanks Kevin, these were taken right after I recontoured the flats on the Thumb-Safety and refinished them. The parkerizing works out as RIA uses Manganese Oxide like I do on Garands so, the color match is fairly easy to do.
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my "dream pistol" is a MAK in 9x19 Parabellum. - i think that such a piece is DOABLE, too.

yours, sw
A 9x19 blowback doesn't sound too pleasant to me.
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Old 12-16-2010, 01:24 PM   #32
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The Astra 400 & 600’s were very good pistols; mainsprings were a touch on the stiff side, but they worked, worked well and shot straight.
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The Astra 400 & 600’s were very good pistols; mainsprings were a touch on the stiff side, but they worked, worked well and shot straight.
Are they pleasant to shoot?
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Old 12-16-2010, 07:16 PM   #34
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Blowback 9s are never pleasant to shoot...
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Old 12-17-2010, 04:59 AM   #35
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Well you have me there, the gun is a bit whippy. But honestly I think that has more to do with the design of the grip than the blow back nature of the pistol. The Astra’s are thick at the top of the grip and taper down toward the bottom. Added to that, the grip is almost at a complete right angle to the bore, so that adds up to a pistol that gives you more muzzle rise than it has a right to. Still, I’ve always enjoyed shooting them, but I’m a gun geek and I just like things that go boom.
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Old 12-17-2010, 05:30 AM   #36
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No disrespect intended, but I think they are the singularly most unpleasant 9s I've ever shot. I compeltely agree that they are beautifully made but I sold the only one I've ever owned the same day I shot it for the first time...
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Oh, I totally understand, they’re definitely not everyone’s cup of tea, and yeah, they’re a good case study in “why would you not just do it Browning’s way?” I’m really not such a fan of the 9’s, but I do like the little .32’s and .380’s which are much more appropriate for a blow back pistol. The .32’s and .380’s are very nice, very well made and shoot rather well.

And while the 9’s are well made, reliable and shoot straight, as you point out; there’s more to a pistol than just being well made, reliable, and shoot straight. Ergonomics suck, takes a gorilla to pull the slide back, and the muzzle snap is more like shooting a .357 than it is like shooting a 9mm. They’re an interesting curio and I like to shoot them from time to time (they are rather accurate), but I can’t for the life of me figure out why Spain (as well as a few other nations) chose the 600 as their service pistol…sometimes national pride can be taken a little too far.
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Charlie Petty; Keving Gibson; all,

Charlie: i wish that you had sold your 400 to me. - i loved my "condor legion escapee" & still wish that i had kept it.= it would shoot about a one inch group at 25 yards (if i held it straight).
(i was working at the time for a LE org that would NOT allow anything but a Colt or S&W .38/.357 revolver & couldn't afford another revolver, w/o selling something.)

fyi, i have some hot reloads in 9x18 that are NEAR to 9x19 specs, but it would be NICE to be able to buy cartridges "off the shelf", instead of having to reload them.

just my opinion.
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SW, try some Cor-Bon PoWrBall ammo,listed velocity is 1265fps. I was getting 1245 out of my PA-63. That's 38Spl+P level energy if such things matter. Stuff feeds like Ball due to the nose ball. Really blows up gallon jugs of water.
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THANKS!

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