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Old 07-24-2018, 12:18 PM   #1
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9th Circuit Panel: ‘Open Carry falls within core of Second Amendment’

A ruling by a three-judge panel of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals could rock the gun probation lobby to its roots, while causing the open carry movement to cheer, by noting that “the Second Amendment encompasses a right to carry a firearm openly in public for self-defense.”

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Old 07-24-2018, 05:42 PM   #2
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It's hard to believe that decision came out of the ninth circuit.
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I suspect that the judges of "the 9th circus" believe that very few civilians will ever carry a handgun openly BUT they may be really surprised at the number of people who will.

ImVho, IF this decision stands, the "anti-gun" MORONS are finished for good. = Their stance on the 2nd is NUTTY, contrary to the Constitution or even commonsense & despite their whining, weeping & wailing there will be NO change to our Bill of Rights..

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What's going on with the 9th? Just last week they upheld a federal judge's ruling that California can't enforce it's standard capacity magazine ban pending a trial.

Is the wacky San Francisco circuit undergoing a revival of respect for law-as-written, as opposed to law-as-imagined?

https://www.courthousenews.com/ninth...-magazine-ban/

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What's going on with the 9th?
I think they got the memo.

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Old 07-25-2018, 09:31 AM   #6
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Subtitle: HELL HAS FROZEN OVER! On the other hand it's not the first time a 3 judge panel has upheld a right and the full court overturned.

Maybe the justices of the 9th have started reading the Constitution or they want to skip the BS and just uphold any trial verdict that supports the oppression.

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Old 07-25-2018, 10:33 AM   #7
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If one goes to "Original Intent," it actually makes sense. Given that "Colonial Williamsburg" features Pre-Revolution civilian characters openly carrying pistols about on their belts. Not to cite a theme park, but this couldn't have been unknown at the time that the Bill of Rights was being written.

Ironically, concealed arms may have a function of just not panicking people who would worry seeing an armed person. If the gun is tucked away, it won't worry people.
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Well, open or concealed is a personal choice but I've always felt that "a weapon unexpected is a weapon most effective..."
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That ruling had to have sent the Liberals and Snowflakes running for their "Safe Places"!
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YEP. And whining, wailing & whimpering as they ran to their "safe space".

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To consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions [is] a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy. Our judges are as honest as other men and not more so. They have with others the same passions for party, for power, and the privilege of their corps. Their maxim is boni judicis est ampliare jurisdictionem [good justice is broad jurisdiction], and their power the more dangerous as they are in office for life and not responsible, as the other functionaries are, to the elective control. The Constitution has erected no such single tribunal, knowing that to whatever hands confided, with the corruptions of time and party, its members would become despots. It has more wisely made all the departments co-equal and co-sovereign within themselves." --Thomas Jefferson to William C. Jarvis, 1820.


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Well, open or concealed is a personal choice but I've always felt that "a weapon unexpected is a weapon most effective..."


No thanks.

I don’t like to operate behind the curve.


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I've resided, while on AD with the Army in TWO states where OPEN CARRY is lawful/commonplace & in those places hardly anyone notices that their neighbors are carrying a firearm.
(The only comment I heard from a LEO here in TX was when I got stopped at a "DWI-checkpoint", about a month ago near Poteet, TX.)

While I normally carry concealed, I had taken my jacket off to drive & was asked by a Deputy Sheriff who came over to my car, "What are you carrying in your holster?"
"A Sig-Sauer P225.", I responded.
The Deputy said, "NICE piece" & waved me on through the checkpoint.

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I just noticed it says open carry licenses. What the devil is that about.
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TEXAS & several other States REQUIRES a "carry license" to carry a handgun, whether concealed or openly carried.
(I don't foresee UNLICENSED carry as lawful in my lifetime in Texas. = Even LOTS of us "2nd Amendment folks" don't like the idea of thugs, who cannot pass a DPS check, carrying deadly weapons.)

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And you think the lack of permit is going to keep said thug from carrying?
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Alaska, New Mexico and Arizona are 3 states that do not require a license to carry open or concealed. They do provide licenses so their citizens may carry in reciprocal states.

Back in 1996 Texas became a licensed concealed carry state. Back in 2017 it became a licensed carry state, open or concealed; your choice. Rifles and shotguns are not regulated even though some cities try.
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No thanks.

I don’t like to operate behind the curve.
No comprendo.
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Walt, I think he's an open carry only sort.
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NO but IF/WHEN the thugs do get caught carrying a weapon W/O a CHL in Texas, they go immediately to jail for UNLICENSED carry. = EASY case to make, too, as you either DO or DO NOT have a license.
(I happen to know a SGT with BCSD, who has made over 50 such apprehensions & has locked-up every one.)

Oftentimes when a thugs is arrested/jailed for unlicensed carry the LE agency ends up finding another & more serious violation that gets "added on", too.

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