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| ASP Batons
I could swear I asked about ASP collapsible batons here a few years ago, but I ran several searches and can't find it. I'm ready to pull the trigger on at least one of these. Any particular recommendations? I think I want steel, not aluminum, and I think I want a small one and a larger one. I have no experience with the things. Any brands just as good as ASP but maybe better priced? I want GOOD stuff and am not afraid to pay for it, but I also want good value for my dollar. |
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Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Shenandoah Valley
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I have had a steel ASP for about 25 years - haven't broken it yet. I did flip my pickup a while back in WVA on the side of a mountain in transit to Moorefield. After a ride to the ER and a week at home (with pay!) I realized that the baton was the only item missing of my tools and personal effects. A friend and I went back to the accident scene exactly a week later and I actually stepped on it under some leaves while searching. A little bit of lube and it was as good as new. I know, not a lot of help but it gave me a reason to tell the story ![]() Last edited by WaltGraham; 06-14-2016 at 05:02 PM. |
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Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Decatur, Al
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That's okay Walt. It was a good story. ![]() I have had the same ASP for 17 years. It looks a little worse for the wear, but is perfectly functional. It is the medium sized steel (don't know if they made anything else then) with a foam type covering on the handle. As far as I am concerned it's top of the line. |
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Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Shenandoah Valley
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I just don't like it flopping around in my trousers unsecured... ![]() Does anyone make such a thing ? Last edited by WaltGraham; 06-14-2016 at 06:00 PM. | |
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Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Decatur, Al
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Mine is a little big for pocket carry. In uniform I had a simple leather tube type holster attached to my duty belt. In plainclothes if the situation warranted, I would slip it into my back pocket. A good third of it stuck up out of the pocket. I really wasn't aware they made ASPs small enough form pocket carry. I'll Do some looking. |
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Banned Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX
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Snake45, IF you can find one, the German Border Guard "collapsing baton" is the REAL DEAL. (Sportsman's Guide has, or at least once had, the BGS baton for CHEAP. = I bought 2 years ago from SG for about 10.oo each & they are faultless, imVho.) The BGS baton is about 20" extended & 6" closed. yours, sw |
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The originals were friction lock on extension. Ones with a mechanical lock are better since you can also use them as spears.
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Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Seattle area--Sodom & Gomorrah on Puget Sound
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SW, this look like it? Expandable Solid Steel Baton - 150379, Self Defense Accessories at Sportsman's Guide |
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Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Antonio, Texas
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| Texians, Beware
If you are down in Texas but not on your own property or a sworn officer be careful. Check Sec. 46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS, Texas penal code classes clubs as unlawful. If I'm mistaken, I ask stand watie to set things straight. |
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Banned Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX
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Diamondback; csmkersh, NOPE. - That item is NOT the German BGS baton. The SGM is 100% correct about Texas laws. - While a handgun/shotgun/rifle & MOST knives (including a "switchblade") is perfectly acceptable to carry (Persons wearing handgun must be licensed by the Texas DPS.), clubs/fighting knives/swords "off your own premises" are UNLAWFUL, unless you are a sworn LEO. (Texas has some truly ODD laws.) In point of fact, a "person, who carries wire-cutting pliers, on or about his person or in his saddlebags" (OFF of his own premises) commits a FELONY. = That's a "Range War law" from the 1870s that still "on the books". Note: To stay lawful & out of jail, it's VERY IMPORTANT to KNOW the laws of the place where you are. - DON'T GUESS. yours, sw |
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Is this the one you're talking about? Used German Police Spring Baton with Case - 69538, Tactical Accessories at Sportsman's Guide |
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Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Seattle area--Sodom & Gomorrah on Puget Sound
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Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Northern Nevada
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In some states, CA for one, a firearm is a misdemeanor but a baton or club is a felony.
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Banned Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX
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Snake45, SIMILAR but shorter. - The BGS baton is 20" long. yours, sw |
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Banned Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX
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Diamondback; Kevin Gibson, YEP. SOME truly strange laws are still "on the books" In Washington, DC, ANY man who, "kisses his wife on Sunday, in an improper manner & in the public view" is punishable by up to a 20.oo fine AND may also spend 10 days in jail. Also, in DC there is a current city ordinance that prohibits, "throwing rotten vegetables, street refuse, rocks or other objects at Chinamen while riding on streetcars." (WHY just CHINAMEN??) Note: DC's FIRST "speed limit" was passed to try to stop Theodore Roosevelt's daughter from driving her buggy too fast. (She had run-down SEVERAL pedestrians in her buggy & injured several people severely.) A wife CAN lawfully kiss her husband, however AND a married man CAN lawfully kiss someone else's wife on Sunday. (Getting hit with a skillet, by his wife, for kissing another wife is LIKELY an assault, however, even in DC. = CHUCKLE.) yours, sw Last edited by stand watie; 06-16-2016 at 06:51 PM. Reason: add |
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Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: MA
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In MA they're in the same class of undesirable weapons as brass knuckles, ninja stars, and switch blades.
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Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: MA
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| Thanks. That's about it. Our AG just DECREED that she is re-interpreting our MA AWB, such that any rifle that acts like an 'assault weapon' (all semi-autos, in her mind), are now 'covered' by the 1998 law and NOW illegal. This includes things like the Ruger 10/22 (semi-automatic). She's ordered all retailers to remove this stock from their shelves and 'transfer it to other states where these can be sold'. She's made perfectly legal product ILLEGAL, and presumed millions of citizens to be criminals. She has ZERO regard for the private businesses she has impacted (likely hoping that they'll go out of business). A COMPLETE abuse of power, and we're doing everything possible to reverse the action through the legislature and court injunctions. However it just builds on the 'executive edict' pattern of the Obama administration. ETA: Sorry Snake45 - No intent to step on your baton thread. Last edited by Phenix; 08-01-2016 at 05:55 AM. |
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Banned Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX
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Phenix, What I always wonder is why a "person of at least 75 IQ" would REMAIN in DAMNyankeeland, rather than "voting with your feet". (I once, while on AD, was "stuck in Boston" on TDY for about 60 days. - I hated every minute of that 2 months.) yours, sw |
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