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Old 12-16-2004, 11:32 PM   #1
 
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Bear or Martin?

Hi. I need your advice.

I was just wondering what you guys and gals would prefer, a Bear or a Martin recurve? Or is there something else that I'm missing? I'm looking into getting a used one, but I haven't decided which brand to get.

I'm about 5'9" and weigh in at 165 lbs. Would a 58" bow do the trick or should I find a longer one?

Thanks in advance and Happy Holidays!
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Old 12-20-2004, 09:40 AM   #2
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It's not the length of the bow that matters. It's the length of the arrows. Your height doesn't matter. Your draw length does. A quick test is to hold a yard stick against your chest and put your flat hand on it. Add two inches and that's roughly the length of arrow for you. Better to be measured in a bow shop though.
With used stuff you're limited to what you can find. Either make will do. Just be sure whatever you buy isn't twisted from mis-use or age. Test that by stringing the bow then draw as per normal and slowly lower the string. Don't dry fire it. If the string goes back down into the wee groove, the bow is likely ok. Then look for any form of delamination.
A longer recurve will tend to be easier to draw and be a bit smoother than a shorter bow. A 58" bow will do nicely though.
I'm 5' 6" and have a 69.5" long bow, one of the horsebows(http://www.horsebows.com) and a Martin compound. Had a nice Ben Pearson recurve stolen. It was about 40". I use the same length arrows out of all of 'em. The arrow length is critical. The bow length isn't.
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Old 12-21-2004, 10:30 PM   #3
 
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Thanks Sunray for the good information! I'm really starting to get into it. I'm just reading an intro book right now to familiarize myself with what is required and some techniques to use.

Do you compete?
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Old 12-23-2004, 10:33 AM   #4
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"...Do you compete?..." Not really. I used to shoot a fair bit of SCA archery.(http://www.sca.org) Never much good at it though. Not enough practice. Up here, our idiot government has screwed up firearm shooting with their stupid registry(expensive courses, tests and permits required with zero regard for previous experience or training), so I'm playing more with bows.
Lots of fun. Especially on what's called 'clout'. The target is a 30 yard circle in the shape of a castle turret at 100 yards. Formed out of hay bales with a life size picture of an armoured warrior inside. The idea is to put 6 arrows into the circle with no time limit. One point per arrow into the circle. Two for hitting the warrior unless you hit his weapon or shield. One point for that. Any arrow that hits the top of the front wall or the inside of the back wall counts as in.
The other fun shoot is the Window shoot. Picture a castle wall from the outside with archer's windows. 3 feet high, 8 inches wide. 6 arrows, no time limit. Hit the window at 30 yards.
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Old 12-23-2004, 06:28 PM   #5
 
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Sounds like a pretty fun game.

I like guns also, but the cost of ammo and range time gets to be pricey two or three times a month. I like the idea where I don't have to be bothered whilst competing against myself and eventually if I'm good enough, other archers.

The stealth-like quickness of an arrow seems more operator oriented and I'm all about that.
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Old 12-28-2004, 10:39 AM   #6
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Hi. See if there's an archery club where you are. The one I belong to costs me $100Cdn a year. No fuss or bother if I want to shoot alone.
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Old 02-23-2005, 01:02 AM   #7
 
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Best bang for the recurve buck - the Martin Hunter, fine looking too.
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Old 02-23-2005, 07:50 AM   #8
 
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Bear & Martin

i have two by Bear and two by Martin
i only have either recurves or longbows
Martin has great customer service

both are great.
my next bow will be from Martin unless I go to a smaller botique build

My primary bow Martin Hunter recurve is fantastic!

Martin take-down (Howat) is on my short list

58" bow or overall length is not so important..taller bow may be more forgiving on accuracy and will "stack" (pinch) less..though i've never personally had this issue.

as you may know, yeoman archers of England had over 72" tall while Japanese Samurai daikyu bows may even be taller. But on horse back, (like the Native Americans, Huns, Mongols & the Koreans), the shorter recurve bows are more handy.

Goto a local archery shop with traditional tackle and get fitted. Ask about "instinctive" archery shooting.

Stay away from compond bows (unless you're only a target shooter that shoots on marked ranges)...want something modern? get a M1a/M-14/FN-FAL

Pay some attention to arrows.

I like wood arrows with four feathers and heavy (140 or 160 grain) fieldpoints or broadheads (flat...two bladed)
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Old 03-08-2005, 11:36 AM   #9
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Try to try them both and get what ya like best.

I prefer the Martin longbows and recurves, but I like the Bear Take Down to the Martin take downs.

Some velocity results w same set up (9g per lb/FF string):

Martin Dreamcatcher 53#/184 fps

Bear TD 51#/183 fps

Black Widow TFII 52#/182 fps

Black Widow SA III 52#/182 fps

Morrison TD 52#/187 fps
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