kk 1935 ammo

Gebirg · 03-15-2013, 10:23 PM

I ordered some Norwegian Raufoss from a farmer up in the north - in Steinkjer, not far from Trondheim.
Ammo in 7,92x57 for M98k and G.33/40 made in 1948, 49 or 50 is still plenty around here in Norway.
Well, i ordered 2 kpl. boxes, or 600 rounds. I opened the kartons or the bigger boxes, each with 20 smaller boxes of 15 rounds - all with clip.

All exept 5!!
Among all small boxes there were 5 German boxes from WWII. I lost my breath

As you can see from pictures, they are in remarkable shape. Personal i liked that box with red letters "Für Gewehr" - no less no more.

Red letter i.L. i dont know the meening.

I dont know anything about German ammo from WWII - anyone?

bearcat6 · 03-16-2013, 05:42 AM

Fur Gewehr means for rifle. But I bet you knew that.

DavidE · 03-16-2013, 09:38 AM

Interesting, the park pressed into the inside of the box says "KK 1935." I wonder if that denotes year of the manufacture or when a company or standard was set up? The outsides of the box say DWM, and the case heads look like they are stamped "40" for 1940.

Beautiful condition too! I got some 1950s Austrian Ammo back in the Mid-1990s that had some surface corrosion and discoloration on some of the cases and that had probably been arsenal kept, in the sealed wooden crate it came in. Your stuff is pristine or close! Congratulations on your find!

stand watie · 03-16-2013, 11:26 AM

Gebirg,

I'd bet that those old cartridges shoot FINE.

3+ decades ago I had an 8MM Lebel "long rifle" = "Captain's Surplus" (LONG GONE, darn it!) in Houston had CASES of PALLETS of Lebel ammo for "scrap prices".
(I bought a "goodly pile" for 1USD a box of 30 & discovered that it shot fine. - Dated 1922.)

yours, sw

Gebirg · 03-16-2013, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stand watie

Gebirg,

I'd bet that those old cartridges shoot FINE.

3+ decades ago I had an 8MM Lebel "long rifle" = "Captain's Surplus" (LONG GONE, darn it!) in Houston had CASES of PALLETS of Lebel ammo for "scrap prices".
(I bought a "goodly pile" for 1USD a box of 30 & discovered that it shot fine. - Dated 1922.)

yours, sw

Thanks, i just have to try them u know...

Gebirg · 03-16-2013, 10:11 PM

DavidE - thank you!

Gebirg · 03-16-2013, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bearcat6

Fur Gewehr means for rifle. But I bet you knew that.

Yes, but i was thinking - so easy to handle for the Germans.
All of their german rifles or the one called gewehr was the same caliber...?
How many so called "Gewehr" did they have? Gew. 88, M98k and Gewehr 33/40, Walther Gewehr 43,...

"Für Gewehr" no less no more...

bearcat6 · 03-17-2013, 06:14 AM

The 98, 33/40, G43, were all the same caliber 7.92mm most people in the US just call it 8mm Mauser. Some of the older Gew. 88 were converted to this cartridge, as I recall they were maked with an S over the chamber.

stand watie · 03-17-2013, 09:34 AM

Gebirg,

Be VERY careful of any "Commission Rifles" that you may find. - Some have the OLD 7.90 bore size and are UNSAFE with typical 8mm Mauser ammo.
(by late 1944 the Nazi regime was arming "rear echelon forces" with ANYTHING that they had.)

REPORTEDLY some Commission rifles that are "S-marked" never got rebored.= CHECK!

yours, sw

Lumberjack · 11-20-2014, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gebirg

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As you can see from pictures, they are in remarkable shape. Personal i liked that box with red letters "Für Gewehr" - no less no more.

Red letter i.L. i dont know the meening.

"Für Gewehr" is for rifle, it is not machinegun ammunition.
"I.L" meens the ammunition is in clips ("im ladstreifen" or something like that in german)

William R. Moore · 11-20-2014, 02:38 PM

I note a designator "Patronen S. (Stahl) P." that may indicate steel jacketed ammunition. You might want to check the bullets with a magnet to see if they're armor piercing.

Gebirg · 03-05-2015, 08:42 AM

Thank you all!

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03-16-2013, 05:42 AM	#2
bearcat6 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,968	Fur Gewehr means for rifle. But I bet you knew that.

03-16-2013, 09:38 AM	#3
DavidE Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,182	Interesting, the park pressed into the inside of the box says "KK 1935." I wonder if that denotes year of the manufacture or when a company or standard was set up? The outsides of the box say DWM, and the case heads look like they are stamped "40" for 1940. Beautiful condition too! I got some 1950s Austrian Ammo back in the Mid-1990s that had some surface corrosion and discoloration on some of the cases and that had probably been arsenal kept, in the sealed wooden crate it came in. Your stuff is pristine or close! Congratulations on your find!

03-16-2013, 11:26 AM	#4
stand watie Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 3,882	Gebirg, I'd bet that those old cartridges shoot FINE. 3+ decades ago I had an 8MM Lebel "long rifle" = "Captain's Surplus" (LONG GONE, darn it!) in Houston had CASES of PALLETS of Lebel ammo for "scrap prices". (I bought a "goodly pile" for 1USD a box of 30 & discovered that it shot fine. - Dated 1922.) yours, sw

03-16-2013, 10:11 PM	#6
Gebirg Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Norway Posts: 97	DavidE - thank you!

03-17-2013, 06:14 AM	#8
bearcat6 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,968	The 98, 33/40, G43, were all the same caliber 7.92mm most people in the US just call it 8mm Mauser. Some of the older Gew. 88 were converted to this cartridge, as I recall they were maked with an S over the chamber.

03-17-2013, 09:34 AM	#9
stand watie Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 3,882	Gebirg, Be VERY careful of any "Commission Rifles" that you may find. - Some have the OLD 7.90 bore size and are UNSAFE with typical 8mm Mauser ammo. (by late 1944 the Nazi regime was arming "rear echelon forces" with ANYTHING that they had.) REPORTEDLY some Commission rifles that are "S-marked" never got rebored.= CHECK! yours, sw

11-20-2014, 02:38 PM	#11
William R. Moore Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,512	I note a designator "Patronen S. (Stahl) P." that may indicate steel jacketed ammunition. You might want to check the bullets with a magnet to see if they're armor piercing.

03-05-2015, 08:42 AM	#12
Gebirg Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Norway Posts: 97	Thank you all!