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Old 03-29-2015, 03:49 PM   #1
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Wife Gets CWL in Florida

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My Lady Wife, of many previous mentions, has decided the threat level is elevated and is getting her license to carry in Florida.

She did an "all in one" class plus with electronic scanned prints, photos, background check and firing on a range in a trailer imported for the test.

Class and shooting test: $59
Prints Photos BG Chk: $80
Gun Show Entrance: $8
License Application fee: $70 to be sent to the State
Total: $217

Course length including all the above and filling out and proofing documentation, two hours thirty minutes/

My Lady Wife was dismayed by lack of others in class gun knowledge, including gentleman who observed he had never held a gun before!

She has also discovered the cost of attending a gun show. Including CTC laser grips for her J-frame, she annexed my Bodyguard Airweight, Old Model.

The show was in Jacksonville, at the Greater Jacksonville Fair and Expo Center, by Florida Gun Shows of Florida, Excellend signal to noise ratio with nary a beef jerky stand to be seen. Large numbers of gun capable purses observed. Prices high on everything, or standard.

Geoff
Who walked his knees off.
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Old 03-29-2015, 03:52 PM   #2
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The shooting portion of the test was accomplished with a revolver of many chambers in .22 RF, sounds like short or CB cap. The revolver had many chambers she said more than 9 or 10. Does anyone remember a 12 shot cylinder from Hi-Standard which looked like a SAA ?

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Folks,

My Lady Wife was dismayed by lack of others in class gun knowledge, including gentleman who observed he had never held a gun before!

She has also discovered the cost of attending a gun show. Including CTC laser grips for her J-frame, she annexed my Bodyguard Airweight, Old Model.
Not just dismayed, but frankly frightened by the thought that these people will be out there with concealed weapons they haven't much of a clue about beyond what small amount of information was in the class.

"Lady Wife" has decided if she attends another show it might be a good idea to take no money!

I also note that his knees look just fine, he just likes to grumble.

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Welcome to the forum skepticswife. I hope we hear more from you.
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Welcome to the club, Ma'am. (Both the ranks of the lawfully armed, and the site. )

Knees are funny things, though--I'm only in my midthirties, and other than a brief time in personal-protection have been a desk-dweller most of that, and mine still do funny things when there's a storm coming in.
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SkepticsWife,

WELCOME ABOARD, Ma'am.
(My lady often reads this site "over my shoulder" but seldom posts.)

yours, sw/"duckie"
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Class and shooting test: $59
Prints Photos BG Chk: $80
Gun Show Entrance: $8
License Application fee: $70 to be sent to the State
Total: $217
...in Murdock v. Pennsylvania SCOTUS ruled it unconstitutional to tax the exercise of a constitutionally enumerated right (in that case First Amendment) by means of a license fee. When are we going to get that extended to the Second Amendment?

Those who would abuse the freedom of speech (such as the proverbial cry of "fire!" in a crowded theater) are punished for the abuse, not subjected to prior restraint.

I'm all for all the realistic training that one can get but I strongly believe that it should be undertaken of one's own volition.
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First to Geoff: Great lady you have there, sir!

To SkepticsWife: Welcome aboard, ma'am. Pretty well mannered group of folks here. Always happy to welcome a new soul on board.

Spwenger, I agree. A couple of bills to get a carry permit (though not the most expensive I've ever heard of) puts the exercise of that right out of the financial means of a lot of folks. Seems as if it's discriminatory on it's face.

We're a little lax here in the Great State of Alabama. A permit costs $20.00 (although I believe it may very some from county to county), we are a shall-issue state, and no training requirements. So far it hasn't seemed to cause any problems.
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Spwenger, I agree. A couple of bills to get a carry permit (though not the most expensive I've ever heard of) puts the exercise of that right out of the financial means of a lot of folks. Seems as if it's discriminatory on it's face.

We're a little lax here in the Great State of Alabama. A permit costs $20.00 (although I believe it may very some from county to county), we are a shall-issue state, and no training requirements. So far it hasn't seemed to cause any problems.
...a $20 a year tax to exercise your rights. (And I believe that most sheriffs in Alabama say that they sell the pistol permits - an admission that they view them as a source of revenue.)

Compare with Arizona - where the CWP is now optional: An initial five-year permit has a fee of $60 - $12 a year - and a renewal is only $43 for five years - $8.60 a year - because there is no longer the $17 FBI fingerprint check for the renewals. You may have to pay somewhere between $5 an $10 to have your prints rolled - depending on who does them - and a host of prior training, including a DD-214 under honorable conditions, a hunter-safety course or a permit from another state that has any sort of training requirement - may safe you the cost of training specific to the permit. You do need to sign an attestation that you have reviewed and are knowledgeable of the Justification and Deadly Weapons chapters of Arizona's Criminal Code.

The Florida CWFL now has a seven-year term, as I recall.

(And, if you feel uncomfortable typing my user name with no capitals, it ought to be SPWenger )
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My Lady Wife did note that it is traditional for the man to pay for the license..
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Who thought that was just for the marriage license...hummm
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Skeptic49,

Pardon me for reminding you that the marriage license is likely the most expensive "cheap" piece of paper that anyone will every buy.

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Skeptic49,

Pardon me for reminding you that the marriage license is likely the most expensive "cheap" piece of paper that anyone will every buy.
Cheaper to keep her...
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...a $20 a year tax to exercise your rights. (And I believe that most sheriffs in Alabama say that they sell the pistol permits - an admission that they view them as a source of revenue.)

Compare with Arizona - where the CWP is now optional: An initial five-year permit has a fee of $60 - $12 a year - and a renewal is only $43 for five years - $8.60 a year - because there is no longer the $17 FBI fingerprint check for the renewals. You may have to pay somewhere between $5 an $10 to have your prints rolled - depending on who does them - and a host of prior training, including a DD-214 under honorable conditions, a hunter-safety course or a permit from another state that has any sort of training requirement - may safe you the cost of training specific to the permit. You do need to sign an attestation that you have reviewed and are knowledgeable of the Justification and Deadly Weapons chapters of Arizona's Criminal Code.

The Florida CWFL now has a seven-year term, as I recall.

(And, if you feel uncomfortable typing my user name with no capitals, it ought to be SPWenger )
Oh, it is definitely a revenue source. A tax if you will. But they also passed open carry here. There is a caveat that if you avail yourself of open carry, and get in a car, you are then legally "concealing" the firearm or are required to unload and store separately the weapon and ammo where no one in the vehicle can reach.

What can I say. Lawyers write laws, and the Sheriff's are a strong political power here. But it beats hell out of some west coast and north eastern states.

Oh, the also passed a bill which stops employers from prohibiting their employees from having firearms in their cars, as long as they were secured out of plain sight.

Oh, and it isn't a matter of comfort with that capitalization. My phone auto capitalizes the first letter of every sentence. Technology...what are you gonna do? ;0)

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To SkepticsWife: Welcome aboard, ma'am. Pretty well mannered group of folks here. Always happy to welcome a new soul on board.

Spwenger, I agree. A couple of bills to get a carry permit (though not the most expensive I've ever heard of) puts the exercise of that right out of the financial means of a lot of folks. Seems as if it's discriminatory on it's face.
Thanks all for the welcome ... yes, the initial cost comes to a couple of bills but most of that is the initial class, photo, fingerprints, background check stuff that are a one time thing as long as you renew timely. The $70 fee covers 7 years which comes to $10 a year, not bad. Think renewal is $65 for another 7 years.

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My wife decided to get her concealed carry permit in Fairfax County, Va. She happened to be five months pregnant at the time. She took the class, trudged over to the court house, stood in the lengthy line, and when she finally made it to the front was told that some "i" wasn't dotted on her paperwork.

She threw in the towel for the day, and didn't get another opportunity to go back for almost three months. By now it's July, it's sweltering, and she's eight months along. She again stands in the long line, makes it to the front, and is told that a "t" isn't crossed. Whereupon she elects to throw a crying, snot-slinging "stand your ground" type protest.

Her remonstrance attracted the attention of everyone in the Clerks office, including two Fairfax County deputies who were on bailiff duty that day. They approached the crying pregnant lady, inquired as to the nature of her distress, then quietly ushered her through a door into the inner sanctum of the Clerk's offices.

Ten minutes later she walked out with a concealed carry permit.
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Final item: $1.19 for first class postage to the State Capital.

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Who paid that one too.
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Addendum: I just renewed my permit at the State Dept. of Agriculture and Consumer Services Regional Office Jacksonville. Renewal notice came on Friday, today is Monday.

Check for $50 and I'm good from 2017 to 2024 (I don't wait until the last minute). They did the picture and made the license on the spot. They were much faster than the FL National Guard when they did my Federal Common Access Card.

Geoff
Who notes $50 for 7 years is still a tax on my civil rights.
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Congratulations!!! Geoff you have a real keeper there, but I'm betting you already knew that.

My prayer is that she never needs it...EVER!!!
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Glad to have you here, SkepticsWife. Welcome. and enjoy.
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