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Old 06-09-2015, 07:00 PM   #81
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Frisco, I enjoyed visiting your state.

I drive from San Antonio to El Paso and spend the night there. In the morning I'd switch to open carry even though I was still in Texas but since I was "travelling" I didn't worry about it. From there, across New Mexico I was golden. When I arrived in Sierra Vista where Fort Huachuca is I'd place my rig in the trunk if going on post. Yeah, this was before the Army got paranoid about guns, but things have changed.

Texas has concealed carry and as of January 1 2016 we'll have open carry and campus carry. CHL still required but covers all styles of carry. Come 2017 when our legislature comes back into session we'll work on Constitutional carry.

Oh, almost forgot. Our CHL gets us a bye on the NICS nonsense. No registration with the state nor permit required.

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TommyGunn,

Fwiw, I personally knew two men who were "local officials", who lived/worked near the notorious Dachau Concentration Camp.

Over time, they both "opened up" to me & I came to the conclusion that those 2 guys did NOT know what was actually going on less than 10KM from their front door. = Mr. Klaus F__________ once said to me, "By 1935 I was a rather junior tax collector for the city & we employees were all warned to NOT 'think about', 'discuss' or 'gossip about' that mysterious place OR 'even consider' going down that road (to Dachau Concentration Camp), as we would be KILLED, as would all of our whole family. - We were told that the facility was 'a most secret test site for super weapons' & closely guarded by the SS."
He paused & then said, "Everyone in our family was shocked & horrified when we found out the truth, as one of the men who worked in my office building was 'one of the worst criminals'. Otto was hanged in 1946 for 'experimenting on people about how they would respond to being wet & cold until they died'.."

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Thanks for that info, SW.
I am convinced that very many did know, but also, many didn't.
I recall watching an old film in a documentary, a b&w clip featuring a old German lady in a post WW 2
Interview reflecting how awful it was that people were "disappearing" and if Hitler knew then he would stop it. She said she didn't realize until later that Hitler ordered it.
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Stop and think about the psychology of the whole thing. Let's say they did know, would they ever admit that? Would people ever admit they knew the biggest crime against humanity since the inquisition was happening right in front of them and they did nothing about it? Not that there was much they could do about it.

I truly think there were some who didn't know. I also think there were many who did know, but were powerless to do anything about it. After the war, what would be your motivation to admit you did know, yet didn't do anything about it? It was a lose-lose situation they were put in.
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Old 06-10-2015, 12:24 PM   #85
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There is a great tendency for plain folks to think that if the mayor, governor, president, CEO, Dear Leader or whatever knew about certain things or certain people, that they'd put a stop to the behavior.

If people really think it through, and many will resist the work involved, they'll realize that the person in question may not actually know the details. On the other hand, it's much more likely that the head person knows who/what the SOB doing the dastardly things is, and is doingand still wants them in that post.
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Old 06-11-2015, 09:52 AM   #86
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Yes, I can carry nation-wide under LEOSA....that's great for me...but it sucks for other folks who can't. I HOPE that nation-wide reciprocity becomes a reality soon too.

OFF my soapbox now.
LEOSA was a great idea, but there are several jurisdictions I would be very leery of carrying concealed in, LEOSA or no.

NYC, New Jersey (the whole state) Chicago (hell, ANYWHERE in Illinois), LA/San Francisco...just to name a few.

I just don't trust the local police "administrators", the District Attorney's or the judiciary for that matter. I'd be willing to bet that, even if eventually found Not Guilty or charges being nolle prossed that you would lose your gun, spend at least one night in jail and have to return several times for court appearances before it was settled.

Not that I'm a cynic or anything...
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All of the ex German soldiers I met when I was stationed there fought on the Russian front. According to them none of them ever killed an "Amis". I met one who said he fought at Monte Cassino, but he was the only one.
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I recently read a story about Wermacht soldiers joining with US soldiers at the close of the war to face off against hardcore Nazi SS soldiers who were trying to kill former prisoners to silence them. There were some great German people, and great German soldiers; God bless them.

But Germany as a nation has the guilt and blame. I used to blame just the Nazi's until I read William Shirer's Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. In that book he chronicles mass public support for war and anti-Semitism. The people of German, by and large, were all for it! Its disconcerting, but it's the truth.
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IrishCop,

You can say that again!!! = I once was stopped at 0200 by a Baltimore County Deputy, while I was a SDUSM, and was threatened with being arrested/jailed AFTER I showed him my badge/creds. = The Deputy said, "My sheriff doesn't want anyone but Maryland officers to carry pistols, no matter what department that you work for."

With/Without a LEOSA, I suspect that you will "get a bad time" in NYC/Chicago/LA or any number of other places IF you carry in those RADICAL LEFTIST/ANTI-gun places.

just my opinion, sw
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Kevin, you might like the alternate-history duology Fox on the Rhine and Fox at the Front--the ultimate What If: Patton, Monty, Rommel and (briefly--spoiler: he dies quick) Guderian team up to take on both Himmler and his SS and the Soviets at the same time.
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You can say that again!!! = I once was stopped at 0200 by a Baltimore County Deputy, while I was a SDUSM, and was threatened with being arrested/jailed AFTER I showed him my badge/creds. = The Deputy said, "My sheriff doesn't want anyone but Maryland officers to carry pistols, no matter what department that you work for."

With/Without a LEOSA, I suspect that you will "get a bad time" in NYC/Chicago/LA or any number of other places IF you carry in those RADICAL LEFTIST/ANTI-gun places.

just my opinion, sw
Geeze, what a bunch of Nazi's.
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I once was stopped at 0200 by a Baltimore County Deputy, while I was a SDUSM, and was threatened with being arrested/jailed AFTER I showed him my badge/creds. = The Deputy said, "My sheriff doesn't want anyone but Maryland officers to carry pistols, no matter what department that you work for."
Are you willing to go to the Federal Pen for your Sheriff?
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I recently read a story about Wermacht soldiers joining with US soldiers at the close of the war to face off against hardcore Nazi SS soldiers who were trying to kill former prisoners to silence them. There were some great German people, and great German soldiers; God bless them.
I have heard of this story and understand a book was written about it.
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I can't begin to tell you how full of suck I consider the state of Maryland to be.

Been trying to get my sister to leave there for 20 years.
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waltGraham,

I don't think that I have to explain to you WHY I refused to take a "good-paying retirement job" & live in B'more MD, do I???

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Are you willing to go to the Federal Pen for your Sheriff?
Tim, I just don't think the current Attorney General/DOJ would be interested in prosecuting such a case. It would be the one time the current administration would be foursquare behind "state's rights".

There are always political considerations.
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IrishCop; Kevin Gibson,

YEP. =====> The BHO MIS-administration is MOST interested in MONEY, promoting a RADICAL LEFTIST "social agenda", trying to assure that the USA becomes a "one party state" & more political POWER.
(HONOR, promoting real civil rights, "doing the right thing" & even "promoting the general welfare" are NO PLACE on their list of "important things".)

Anything done by BHO & his henchmen that has a good result for "regular folks" is rare & PUREST ACCIDENT.

yours, satx
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Are you willing to go to the Federal Pen for your Sheriff?
Hey Tim, why would that be Federal?
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Kidnapping a Federal LEO isn't a Federal offense?
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Donald Trump discusses the subject, after the terror attack on Military Recruiting stations in Tennessee. He mentions increasing security. I am figuring something along the Cold War lines. A terrorist attacking a military recruiting station near a College reminded me of stuff that people worried about back in the 1970s.

Trump would end 'gun free zones' on military bases | Washington Examiner
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