"Made In Serbia"- Maybe I Shouldn't Ask

Ookedama · 05-08-2019, 12:41 PM

Hey Folks,

Still being a newbie and feeling my way around I stumbled on these M1 rounds at my local sporting goods store. I can buy a box of these and still have $$ for a 12 pack.

Does anyone have experience or input on this Monarch brand made in Serbia and marketed from Texas? And how the little M1 carbine acts with them?

Made in Serbia..... Maybe I ask and answered my own question.....

Doughboy · 05-08-2019, 01:45 PM

Ookedama,

I've NOT used their .30 Carbine ammo but have bought/used a PILE of their 9mm ammo with GOOD results.
My FAVORITE ammo in 9.3x62mm 286 JSP sporting ammo is SERBIAN-made by Prvi Partizan. - CHEAP, too.

yours, sw

TommyGunn · 05-08-2019, 07:36 PM

That is Academy Sports Store brand. It should function well, esp. as it is FMJ ammo.

Ookedama · 05-09-2019, 04:17 AM

Doughboy,, TommyGun,

Hey, large 'thanks' for the replies. Yes, I bought the box from my local Academy Sports....

I'll try them out.....

CaptainGyro · 05-09-2019, 05:44 AM

The Serbs are historically formidable fighters and routinely punch above their weight class. Lying at the crossroads of empires (Macedonian, Roman, Byzantine, Mongolian, Ottoman, Austro-Hungarian, and Nazi) they are a hardened people, and somewhat testy.

If anyone was going to manufacture reliable ammo it would probably be them.

William R. Moore · 05-09-2019, 06:19 AM

My first job as a machinist had a Serbian gent as Master Machinist. We imported several more as they still have the old trade apprenticeship system over there. Whoever completes that program knows their stuff. I learned a lot. [Tito may have been a Commie, but he was bright enough not to fix what wasn't broken.]

As a result, I'd expect most products of the mechanical type or manufactured by mechanical means (no idea of their electronics, if any) to be top notch.

Ookedama · 05-09-2019, 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainGyro

The Serbs are historically formidable fighters and routinely punch above their weight class. Lying at the crossroads of empires (Macedonian, Roman, Byzantine, Mongolian, Ottoman, Austro-Hungarian, and Nazi) they are a hardened people, and somewhat testy.

If anyone was going to manufacture reliable ammo it would probably be them.

CaptainGyro,

So,,,, you are saying that the Serbs are kinda like us???? (Seriously,,, I',m just joking of course.)

Nice reply, thanks.

Ookedama · 05-09-2019, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by William R. Moore

My first job as a machinist had a Serbian gent as Master Machinist. We imported several more as they still have the old trade apprenticeship system over there. Whoever completes that program knows their stuff. I learned a lot. [Tito may have been a Commie, but he was bright enough not to fix what wasn't broken.]

As a result, I'd expect most products of the mechanical type or manufactured by mechanical means (no idea of their electronics, if any) to be top notch.

Mr. Moore,

Whew, after the great posts to my question I gonna have no worries with the Monarch .30 FMJ's. AND I can still fit brewskis in my weekly allowance.

Thanks

Doughboy · 05-09-2019, 07:24 AM

Ookedama,

I suspect that you'll like that ammo. = I routinely use it for target practice in my Sig-Sauer 9x19mm.

yours, sw

Snake45 · 05-09-2019, 11:59 AM

Just to be contrarian...I'd think if anyone here would be wary of unfamiliar, off-brand .30 USC ammo, it would be you.

Ookedama · 05-09-2019, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake45

Just to be contrarian...I'd think if anyone here would be wary of unfamiliar, off-brand .30 USC ammo, it would be you.

Snake45,,,

Dude, I hear ya. That's why I asked the question- I'm confused. My new receiver and barrel/bolt will arrive in a couple of weeks from Fulton Armory. Fulton highly recommends only American Eagle .30 FMJ rounds. ($$$$$)

Well, I'd like to hit the range and mutilate cardboard targets often, but using the American Eagle will rapidly delete my 'refreshment' allowance. Which is very important in this chapter of my life and "Hey" I deserve the luxury.

So, my choice is being a 'real' hometown boy, which means only having a few cool ones, or buying overseas.

Such is life....... I enjoy your 'sage-input'.

Doughboy · 05-09-2019, 02:33 PM

CaptainGyro,

Speaking of "pitching above your weight", have you read WAR ON SKATES, the true but incredible story of the FINNS vs the RED ARMY??

Though documented/footnoted intensely, it's hard to believe some of the exploits of the Finnish soldiers beating the C____ out of the always larger/better armed USSR troop units.

yours, sw

Snake45 · 05-09-2019, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ookedama

Snake45,,,

Dude, I hear ya. That's why I asked the question- I'm confused. My new receiver and barrel/bolt will arrive in a couple of weeks from Fulton Armory. Fulton highly recommends only American Eagle .30 FMJ rounds. ($$$$$)

Well, I'd like to hit the range and mutilate cardboard targets often, but using the American Eagle will rapidly delete my 'refreshment' allowance. Which is very important in this chapter of my life and "Hey" I deserve the luxury.

So, my choice is being a 'real' hometown boy, which means only having a few cool ones, or buying overseas.

Such is life....... I enjoy your 'sage-input'.

Why don't you get Fulton Armory's opinion on this ammo?

That said, if your "cool ones" are more important to you than your eyes, fingers, etc., and the good health of your expensive equipment, you might have other problems.

CaptainGyro · 05-11-2019, 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doughboy

...have you read WAR ON SKATES, the true but incredible story of the FINNS vs the RED ARMY??

I have not read it SW, but I'm aware of the prowess of the fighters from the home of Sako, Tikka, Valmet, and VihtaVuori. Not being a world power they enjoy the luxury of specialization, and seem to have written the book on arctic and alpine combat.

Javlin · 05-11-2019, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ookedama

Hey Folks,

Still being a newbie and feeling my way around I stumbled on these M1 rounds at my local sporting goods store. I can buy a box of these and still have $$ for a 12 pack.

Does anyone have experience or input on this Monarch brand made in Serbia and marketed from Texas? And how the little M1 carbine acts with them?

Made in Serbia..... Maybe I ask and answered my own question.....

We had a fella who belonged to our gun range years back(mid 90's) who wrote for a gun mag(went to Aberdeen later) about ammo.The guy gave me some advice one day I have never have forgotten "if you would not drink the water there don't buy your ammo from there"

but has been my standard since.Serbia would be OK in my book.

WaltGraham · 05-11-2019, 06:07 PM

I think Charlie has a story about some Finns that showed up unexpectedly at a restaurant in Florida while some of us were attending a SHOT show...

And comparing blades.

CaptainGyro · 05-13-2019, 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Javlin

..."if you would not drink the water there don't buy your ammo from there"

I appreciate this sentiment, and I'm sure it holds water (pun intended) most of the time, but Aguila rimfire ammo is among my favorites. It's cheap, reliable, accurate, and seems to be lubed with beeswax, which smells so good when fired.

Why drink the water when there's cerveza?

TommyGunn · 05-13-2019, 06:31 AM

....I thought Aquila was made in Mexico ..... where I also would not drink the water. But their ammo is good.

Javlin · 05-13-2019, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainGyro

I appreciate this sentiment, and I'm sure it holds water (pun intended) most of the time, but Aguila rimfire ammo is among my favorites. It's cheap, reliable, accurate, and seems to be lubed with beeswax, which smells so good when fired.

Why drink the water when there's cerveza?

I think I have some of there 30 carbine it shoots.When John made the comments it was mid 90's maybe and that S.African .308 was pretty sloppy.He said if you cannot get the case weight consistent it's downhill from there to him.He was the best shooter off the bench with a M1 Garand I ever saw 8 shots straight line touching each other 100yds open sights.

William R. Moore · 05-14-2019, 06:54 AM

There is this process where one reloads their empty cartridge cases..............If one views it as recycling, it's even kind to the environment.

05-08-2019, 01:45 PM	#2
Doughboy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 534	Ookedama, I've NOT used their .30 Carbine ammo but have bought/used a PILE of their 9mm ammo with GOOD results. My FAVORITE ammo in 9.3x62mm 286 JSP sporting ammo is SERBIAN-made by Prvi Partizan. - CHEAP, too. yours, sw Last edited by Doughboy; 05-14-2019 at 07:50 AM. Reason: add

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05-08-2019, 07:36 PM	#3
TommyGunn Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Morgan County, Alabama "In Dixie Land I'll take my stand." Posts: 8,476	That is Academy Sports Store brand. It should function well, esp. as it is FMJ ammo.

05-09-2019, 04:17 AM	#4
Ookedama Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Florida, American by birth,, Southern by the grace of God. Posts: 47	Doughboy,, TommyGun, Hey, large 'thanks' for the replies. Yes, I bought the box from my local Academy Sports.... I'll try them out.....

05-09-2019, 05:44 AM	#5
CaptainGyro Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Greater Waxhaw Metropolitan Area Posts: 1,721	The Serbs are historically formidable fighters and routinely punch above their weight class. Lying at the crossroads of empires (Macedonian, Roman, Byzantine, Mongolian, Ottoman, Austro-Hungarian, and Nazi) they are a hardened people, and somewhat testy. If anyone was going to manufacture reliable ammo it would probably be them.

05-09-2019, 06:19 AM	#6
William R. Moore Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,533	My first job as a machinist had a Serbian gent as Master Machinist. We imported several more as they still have the old trade apprenticeship system over there. Whoever completes that program knows their stuff. I learned a lot. [Tito may have been a Commie, but he was bright enough not to fix what wasn't broken.] As a result, I'd expect most products of the mechanical type or manufactured by mechanical means (no idea of their electronics, if any) to be top notch.

05-09-2019, 07:24 AM	#9
Doughboy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 534	Ookedama, I suspect that you'll like that ammo. = I routinely use it for target practice in my Sig-Sauer 9x19mm. yours, sw

05-09-2019, 11:59 AM	#10
Snake45 Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: "Close, but no donut!" Posts: 13,130	Just to be contrarian...I'd think if anyone here would be wary of unfamiliar, off-brand .30 USC ammo, it would be you.

05-09-2019, 02:33 PM	#12
Doughboy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 534	CaptainGyro, Speaking of "pitching above your weight", have you read WAR ON SKATES, the true but incredible story of the FINNS vs the RED ARMY?? Though documented/footnoted intensely, it's hard to believe some of the exploits of the Finnish soldiers beating the C____ out of the always larger/better armed USSR troop units. yours, sw

05-11-2019, 06:07 PM	#16
WaltGraham Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Shenandoah Valley Posts: 3,907	I think Charlie has a story about some Finns that showed up unexpectedly at a restaurant in Florida while some of us were attending a SHOT show... And comparing blades.

05-13-2019, 06:31 AM	#18
TommyGunn Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Morgan County, Alabama "In Dixie Land I'll take my stand." Posts: 8,476	....I thought Aquila was made in Mexico ..... where I also would not drink the water. But their ammo is good.

05-14-2019, 06:54 AM	#20
William R. Moore Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,533	There is this process where one reloads their empty cartridge cases..............If one views it as recycling, it's even kind to the environment.