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Old 02-19-2004, 04:52 AM   #1
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HOW READY ARE YOU????

TIME IS UP,YOU GET HOME AND SHELTER IN PLACE.

HOW LONG CAN YOU AND FAMILY CONTINUE BEFORE YOU HAVE TO VENTURE OUT?
FOR ME THE ANSWER IS
FOOD 60 DAYS 90 IF WE GO ON SHORT RATIONS
WATER 600 GALLONS
6MTS REQUIRED MEDS
HEATING /PROPANE 500 GAL. TANK KEPT AT 50% OR MORE
best of all no one will know what we got
wepons several, ammo plenty
22cal.223,308,12 ga.,28ga.357magall more than enough to last the rest of the wepons expected life with a min of 1500 rds per
all in a safe
I feel 30 days to be a reasonable time as the thugs/ maggots will eliminate themselves by then
society will recover but changed forever
no more welfare/social welfare experiments and best of all no more liberal bed wetters
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Old 02-19-2004, 06:18 AM   #2
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Re: HOW READY ARE YOU????

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best of all no one will know what we got
Will you be publishing the Yahoo Maps directions to your place on this forum or the General Discussion forum?

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society will recover but changed forever
no more welfare/social welfare experiments and best of all no more liberal bed wetters
I'm not so sure. Wait another 50 years and some form of the welfare state will rear its ugly head.

And liberal bed wetters are like cockroaches. No matter how hard you try, you just can't kill them all! :P

Moe
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Old 02-19-2004, 12:15 PM   #3
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I just hope that I am near my house when the SHTF. I live in SoCal and we are so dependent on the freeway system here for commuting. There are a few scenarios that would turn the freeways into parking lots, such as a really big earthquake or some civil unrest for whatever the reason.

When I'm in my house I'm OK for a few weeks at best. The biggest commodity in short supply is potable water. You can't last more than a few days without water or something that contains it.

There is one factor going against me from the start. I live in Southern CA and most there are too many people here who would panic. I have only a small piece of the puzzle put together for survjving a REAL situation. I'm sure that most people would be caught with their pants down in a REAL situation. It is then that they would start to scavenge and try to take the property of others who had prepared. This is where they get shot, so the thugs would get elimated quickly by gun owners. There are so many scenarios that could play out, but the real thing to consider is human behavior here. If push comes to shove, people will shove and do whatever it takes to survive.

I can have comfort that I have the ability to repel a lot of them with my weapons if it comes to that, or they could take me out with one well placed shot, who knows?

When the SHTF the safest and most secure place WILL NOT be your house as you know it right now. If you are serious you need to have a hiding place in a wilderness area, away from a hostile population, with a weapons cache and food sfuffs. Like I said, most people are really NOT as prepared as they think they are. This only applies to a MAD MAX type scenario, where the only people you want near you are your immediate family because everyone else is perceived as a threat.
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Old 02-19-2004, 03:44 PM   #4
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There are a few scenarios that would turn the freeways into parking lots
When I was in LA all it took was a short rain or a fender bender.

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If you are serious you need to have a hiding place in a wilderness area, away from a hostile population.
Why do I think there will be no shortage of heavily armed "hostile population" out in the wilderness. I'll gladly stay at home.
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Old 02-19-2004, 04:20 PM   #5
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I just hope that I am near my house when the SHTF.
Murphy's law dicates that we will most likely be far away from our homes if anything happens, with whatever we have in our pockets!
I hate Murphy..........
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Old 02-19-2004, 06:43 PM   #6
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Not ready enough.... Do not have enough ammo. I am trying to catch up to Major General JR. Three full rooms and a garage....Damn, I got a long ways to go.


GOT AMMO!
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Old 02-19-2004, 09:16 PM   #7
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Murphy's law dicates that we will most likely be far away from our homes if anything happens, with whatever we have in our pockets!
I hate Murphy..........
That is so true. I'm not suggesting that preparedness (in the form of cached foodstuffs, weapons, ammo, etc) is not worthwhile. It would be foolish to put all your eggs in the hoarders basket, though. The ability to adapt to changing situations and make do with meager rations, would be more important. All the ammo in the world won't do you much good if you are 50 miles from home when TSHTF.
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Old 02-20-2004, 06:03 AM   #8
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I have to agree with wuzzagrunt, preparation is fine and worthwhile (and essential to keep your options open), but headwork will be the deciding factor. Assuming that you are not trying to prepare for a MAD MAX world or even TEOTWAWKI, then an interesting read is the "Dark Winter" excersice by the John Hopkins Center in June of 2001. This was a government sponsored high level leadership excersice after a smallpox attack on the USA and the results "scared the pants off of a number of politicians". So the question might better be, how would you prepare for this real world threat?

An internet search of "Dark Winter" will get you started, if this is new info.
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Old 02-29-2004, 05:12 AM   #9
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I hate Murphy..........
But Murphy is consistent isn't he?

You can ALWAYS count on "Murphy"! Which is why "survivalism is such hard work.

But I wouldn't have it any other way!

If it was easy it wouldn't be SURVIVAL!
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Old 02-29-2004, 08:56 PM   #10
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Murphy's law dicates that we will most likely be far away from our homes if anything happens, with whatever we have in our pockets!
I hate Murphy..........
I thank GOD, that my job carries me around my home. Always less than 10-miles from my home all days. If anything should happen I will be prepare to meet with my family or my defenses.
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Old 03-02-2004, 12:20 PM   #11
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To be absolutely honest, I'm not saving ammo for the End Of Days scenario. I've got it in case the politicians ever succeed in making it much more costly. That way, I'll use the stored ammo to dilute the cost of purchases for the nest 30 years, or so. In the case of massive disaster, we're headed out, via back roads, as soon as possible. We have friends in remote locations. As to the comment about heavily-armed gangs in sparsely populated areas, what would draw them? Moving a large body of men would be difficult, feeding them, and knowing where to operate, would be exceedingly difficult. Unless these were military types, they wouldn't be much more than an unruly rabble, and concerted action, beyond shoot and charge, would most likely be alien to them.
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Old 03-19-2004, 05:20 PM   #12
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Saving ammo is sort of like left-over shrimp...I keep hearing about them, but never actually saw one
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Old 03-26-2004, 09:29 AM   #13
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I have enough basic foodstuff for my family of 6, plus the dogs and 1 good cat for 13 to 15 months. I have the supplies in containers that are portable. Same with ammo. I always keep 1-2k for sks and ak. Soon I will add 7.62. I keep enough .22 to last for ever it seems like. I handload when I have time(and money) for .357 .45 30-06 and 7mm mag. Iwill add those supplies as I can afford(working student and all) We use storage and replenish every 2-3 months. I shoot when I have time but always keep a basic inventory.I live rural but if we have serious trouble, like in the grocery stores don't get replenished, their would be too much trouble here to stay.No food means lots of trouble!! Most people aren't prepared for more than a week or two of no shopping. I have friends in the rockys in several states. I would hope to see it coming or react fast and load and go! If it every does get bad for whatever reason rural texas will not be safe as some think. Lots of poor people could become desperate quick, racial strife, immigrants with questionable loyalty to the country.I have a good basic supply (a start) for my family But could I keep us safe here? I think our chances would be better where there are less people. I wouldn't be so quick to assume that a recovery of any kind would be forthcoming. May take some time to get going again. Imagine if there was no stores open for just 3 months, no gas, no electricity. For whatever reason you choose. How ready am I? Not enough my friends.
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Old 04-06-2009, 04:30 AM   #14
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Re: HOW READY ARE YOU????

How long could we go before having to venture out? Since we have a nearby pond water wouldn't be a huge problem for a little while, and with our stock of emergency food I'm thinking eight weeks, if we stretched it.

Yes, I know we need to be even better prepared than that, even though we're probably better prep'd than 99% of Americans.
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Old 04-06-2009, 04:45 AM   #15
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Re: HOW READY ARE YOU????

As a previous poster mentioned, water is important.

Typical home requirement is 3 gallons per person per day. NOT including bathing.

Quit flushing, or go out into the woods, 1 gallon per person per day.

Now, tell me how to pack that.
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Old 04-06-2009, 05:08 AM   #16
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Re: HOW READY ARE YOU????

I have quite a few supplies the biggest thing I am missing is experience. I have never lived in the woods for an extended period. I bought some stuff to do more camping but I have been very busy and have a young daughter that would be miserable camping. She is getting to the point where we could go now though. We are good for water unless there is a nuke/chemical attack as we are near a river that has good water.
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Old 04-06-2009, 03:29 PM   #17
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. . . have a young daughter that would be miserable camping. She is getting to the point where we could go now though. . . .
If you can arrange time away from work and school try a three day, two night, trip to any campground or park, preferably with bathroom & shower facilities and some recreation that your family might enjoy. Then, some time later, do it again, but to a place that only has limited facilities, like portapotties or sanijohns (spelling??) and limited recreation, other than hiking and wild game watching.

Make sure you are well equipped (rent or borrow what you don't want to buy until you are sure).

The point is to get you and her out into the boonies, and see how interesting and fun it is.
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Old 04-06-2009, 08:21 PM   #18
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Re: HOW READY ARE YOU????

Start small and grow

For those with two tons of supplys. How do you intend on moving that stuff
when roads are closed. If the S really does HTF, running gensets or any gas powered motor is going to draw attention like poo draws flies. Any sign of comfort is going to attract attention. Read Anne Frank or Corrie Ten Boom and find out the pressures of living under the radar. Start baking bread and everyone for a mile or more down wind will know you exist. There isn't enough open spaces for everyone in the cities to make it in the wild.
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Old 04-07-2009, 04:01 AM   #19
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Re: HOW READY ARE YOU????

It appears to have already started in a limited fashion where I live in rural SC. Home invasion about 20 miles from me last week resulted in two pieces of scum being awarded body bags. Home invasion about ten miles from me last week resulted in occupant throwing her purse at them and running out back door.
Yesterday a vehicle was seen parked on side of road up by neighbor's house. I ride mountain bike for exercise with rifle slung over my back. Spotted the car, no one in site and got tag number. Evidently they spotted me getting the tag number as when I came back down the road about fifteen minutes later they were gone and neighbor was not touched.
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Old 12-30-2010, 10:02 AM   #20
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I feel 30 days to be a reasonable time as the thugs/ maggots will eliminate themselves by then
society will recover but changed forever
no more welfare/social welfare experiments and best of all no more liberal bed wetters
I thinbk that you are being overly optimistic in your timeline.
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