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Old 10-03-2005, 08:18 PM   #1
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Flashlight: Choose One.

...just wondering what kinda flashlight everyone is using nowadays? I did a search for another topic but didn't find anything too specific.

The Mag-Lites just don't do it for me. They're fairly heavy and unless I'm using it to beat someone to a bloody pulp... is there any other flashlight you guys would recommend for home defense/tactical use? Something lightweight... i.e., perhaps I could straddle it against the forearm of my Remington 870 as though it were actually mounted to the shotgun. I'd like something fairly bright... yet, nothing big or bulky like the infamous 50 billion candlelight powered flashlights. Preferably something fairly economical, too. I don't feel like spending $100.00 on a flashlight... am I asking too much?
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Old 10-03-2005, 08:37 PM   #2
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No, your not asking for to much at all. My favorite lites are these in no order:

-Minimag AA with nite ize led upgrade (well worth the 5 bucks at wallyworld)

-Energizer headlamp 2 led/1 red led, uses 3 AAA batts and runs continous for 50 hours, so far works well and is well built. Got it again at wallyworld for 12 bucks.

-Streamlight twintask led/xenon flashlights. I have two of them one 3C and one 2D. Both features a multituse of modes from 3 led-10 led (each one has different led bulb modes b/c of the # of bulbs, but you get the idea), and a xenon bulb. Both run for a long time but the 3c with 3 led's (very bright!) lasts 160 hours! The 3C is my favorite of them all and is well built, better than a maglight and is way lighter! Its my go to light if I need to see something, I picked both of them up for about 35 bucks each online sometime ago, well worth the money. And no I am no way affiliated with streamlight incase your wonderin.

-Inova led keychain with lithium batts, have both a red and white led. Good for small use but not much else..better to have than to not ya know.

-I also have a couple of maglights and while good they just dont last with batts, the led lights are brighter and last way longer. Plus the models I chose are cheap and xenon bulb mode allows for really bright light if you need it. Dont spend on a surefire light, very well made but 45-60 mins of runtime on those expensive harder to find batteries (think SHTF) and your really screwed.

Personally, I carry a few lights on me in my bob. The 3C streamlight, the keychain led, and my headlamp or AA maglight. Of course none of them use any of the same batteries but 3 our of 4 use common types that wont be bought up asap (most general use lights use D cells, smaler ones use AA's-not many use AAA's or C's). Imho there is no better light for multipurpose use to replace the maglight than a streamlight.
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Click on the Digilight link at the bottom of the page. They're about half the price of Surefires with similar capabilities. I've got several Mags as well, but only grab them when a back-up bludgeon is indicated...
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Re: Flashlight: Choose One.

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...just wondering what kinda flashlight everyone is using nowadays? I did a search for another topic but didn't find anything too specific.

The Mag-Lites just don't do it for me. They're fairly heavy and unless I'm using it to beat someone to a bloody pulp... is there any other flashlight you guys would recommend for home defense/tactical use? Something lightweight... i.e., perhaps I could straddle it against the forearm of my Remington 870 as though it were actually mounted to the shotgun. I'd like something fairly bright... yet, nothing big or bulky like the infamous 50 billion candlelight powered flashlights. Preferably something fairly economical, too. I don't feel like spending $100.00 on a flashlight... am I asking too much?
Mine?
Inova X5 - almost 24/7 carry.
Surefire G2 Nitrolon(sp?)- rides in the BOB/backpack/briefcase
Inova Tactical 24 - 7 LED - BOB for emergencies/signaling
Couple of Energizer type headlamps for outside work around the house.

http://www.tadgear.com/x-treme%20gear/f ... /inova.htm

http://www.botac.com/surefire.html
http://www.botac.com/in24smbr.html

Lithium 3v batts - http://www.botac.com/sanyo1.html
$25.00 a 20 pack

Great companies. Have done, and will continue to do business with.
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Old 10-04-2005, 06:50 AM   #5
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For a weapons light as you said you wanted you will not beat the Surefire G2 Nitrolons. They are God awful bright and will cast a beam good enough to see a man at 125 yards. The temp on tail switch gives you the option of IDing your target and engaging it without keeping your light on and making yourself a target. At close range(50 yards and in) it will blind anyone who is in the beam. They are also very affordable at about $35 each. A Nitrolon is my bedstand light for checking out things that go bump in the night,a 6P is on my duty belt,and a weapons mounted surefire is in a small pouch in front of my issued Glock. I LIKE SUREFIRES,and I literally trust my life to my lights. Battery life is short and batteries are not cheap....but if you want to run a high performance machine in any area of life there is a trade off. Links already posted cut the battery cost in HALF from what you will pay at Wal Mart.

I also have a mini maglight and spare parts for it in my BOB. Good lights and hard to beat for the money...... but I wouldn't want to be searching a dark house for a murder suspect with one.

Get one of each for under $50 and be covered. TJR
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Old 10-04-2005, 08:08 AM   #6
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I also have a bunch.I have a couple Streamlight Scorpions-yeah,battery light is short,but they are bright and those batteries last a long time and store well.They are my "tactical" lights.

I also have a couple of Maglites in all different configurations/sizes.

I have some cheap keychain lights and also have two of the "pumper" type lights-as long as you pump the handle,you have light.


The best advice is diversify-Have different ones for different tasks.
And you will also stand a chance of finding some kind of battery to fit one of your lights if teh SHTF.
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Old 10-04-2005, 08:44 AM   #7
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I got a bunch of lights as well lol.

I keep 2 Surefire lights in the gun boxes around the house.

I have small feather weight LED lights in the bug-out bags.

I keep one them new fangled shaker no battiery lights in the Emergency Supplies.

We have plug in regargable flash-lights around the house for power outages.

I do keep two 3x D Mag-Lights, one in the truck and one in the trailer.

When I was ship board I used a small AA Mag light with a red filter for Bridge work.
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Old 10-04-2005, 08:55 AM   #8
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-Minimag AA with nite ize led upgrade (well worth the 5 bucks at wallyworld)

-Energizer headlamp 2 led/1 red led, uses 3 AAA batts and runs continous for 50 hours, so far works well and is well built. Got it again at wallyworld for 12 bucks.
Thanks for the info.

I've 3-cell Maglites in the car and Z71 plus a Mini-Mag on the console of the car. A Surefire G2 rides in my shirt pocket. I want/need to get a LED headlamp and a small LED flashlight. I'll just covert the MiniMag instead.
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-Minimag AA with nite ize led upgrade (well worth the 5 bucks at wallyworld)

-Energizer headlamp 2 led/1 red led, uses 3 AAA batts and runs continous for 50 hours, so far works well and is well built. Got it again at wallyworld for 12 bucks.
Thanks for the info.

I've 3-cell Maglites in the car and Z71 plus a Mini-Mag on the console of the car. A Surefire G2 rides in my shirt pocket. I want/need to get a LED headlamp and a small LED flashlight. I'll just covert the MiniMag instead.
It works well, its very bright too! just dont use the one with the tail switch, as it has a tendancy to turn on very easy.
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Old 10-04-2005, 09:26 AM   #10
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The idea of dual-purpose lights leaves me a little cold. A light to be used on a weapon should, in my opinion, be left for that purpose, and not used for anything else.

We have multiple lights in our home and vehicles. Both vehicles see multi-LED flashlights for general use. I also keep a 3 D-Cell Maglite in my truck for those times when a heavier, more durable, light is important. This would be the aluminum variant.

I also carry an Innova on my person.

There is a 5 D-Cell Maglite in the bedroom, next to the other non-lethal defense pieces. The firearms all have a SureFire with them. I've found the Maglites with the Krypton bulbs to be quite bright, and very handy as a non-threatening tool when dealing with annoying types.
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Old 10-04-2005, 01:53 PM   #11
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I use flashlights profesionally. Looking for critters in buildings and such. The general consensus in the business is that Streamlight flashlights are the most durable. I use the SL 20, have four I bought in the late 80's. They get daily use and have been used to whack the occasional rat or racoon. They have been dropped, stuck into doors to hold them open and gone in some nasty places, including toxic environments where I wear SCBA and polypropelene suits. I have replaced many lenses because chemicals reacted with the plastic. All the lights have had the switch unit replaced at one point . I learned early to toss the rechargeable streamlight batteries and use the maglite battery from their rechargeable. I get about 8 years out of the rechargeable batteries.

They are a professional tool. I tried the comparable maglite but they are not as durable (bulbs,switches, rechargers)

I have chargers in my vehicles and at home.
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Old 10-04-2005, 02:52 PM   #12
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I really appreciate everyone's reply!! There's definitely some great merchandise out there that won't cost me an arm and a leg... I appreciate the references.

Having different lights for different duties will help me diversify in the long run.
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Old 10-04-2005, 07:46 PM   #13
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I have worked midnight shift for the PD for the last decade or so. Accordingly, I have many many flashlights. On my person right now
Surefire 6P
Surefire keychain LED light
AAA mini mag light (1 AAA battery)
AAA (1 cell) light (not sure of manufacturer-not shown on light)

In my breifcase:
Stream light Ultra Stinger rechargable
AAA mini mag lite

In my truck
2 or 3, 3 D cell mag lights
1, 2 cell D twintask
1, 1 3v twintask
several AA and AAA mini mag lights
1, 2 cell AA LED Trek light from C Crane Company
1, NO BATTERY NEEDED flashlight (LED bulb, has a large magnet that passes through a coil when shaken, charges a capacitor that powers the light. 30 or so seconds of shaking give about five minutes of light; This is my SHTF light, will work when batteries are no longer available anywhere)
1, LED headlight (two white, one red LED). runs on 2 AAA batteries.

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In my opinion, the best lights are the Surefire. They are more expensive than the others, but are very durable. The twintasks lights are good, but not as bright as a surefire, mag light, or regular streamlight. We break the Ultra Stinger Streamlights on a regular basis, so don't reccommend them as a SHTF light. Mag lights are virtually indestructable! I threw a 5-D cell through a car window (stolen car-while trying to get the occupants attention); It still worked after I recovered it (thirty miles and several towns away). I have seen officers directing traffic take off side rear view mirrors with a mag light without damaging the light!

Batteries:
123 sized lithium batteries are expensive locally. Order them on line and the price is very reasonable (Surefire sells them for 12/$18.00 shipped or you can get them at Wally World for 2 for $12.00). Big difference. There is a company that sell rechargable 123 sized batteries but I haven't used them. He was asking $5.00 each. LED lights are not as bright and don't reach as far as halogen or xenon lights, but are much easier on batteries. In a SHTF scenario where re-supply is difficult or impossible, the LED lights will be very useful since the batteries last so long. Be sure to have a back up flashlight or additional batteries on patrol. The batteries will die at the most inopportune times (think chasing an armed suspect through the woods and your flashlight dies it's happened to me and it ain't fun). Rechargable batteries will not last as long as alkaline, but can be used over and over again (100-1K recharges). NiCad will develop a memory if not conditioned properly. NiMh will not develop a memory and most times have a better charge density. They will not recharge as many times as a properly cared for NiCad though. I have not gotten around to getting any of the rechargable replacements for the lithium 123 3v cells. I should since a lot of my stuff uses them.

PM me if I can be of any further assistance.
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-Minimag AA with nite ize led upgrade (well worth the 5 bucks at wallyworld)

-Energizer headlamp 2 led/1 red led, uses 3 AAA batts and runs continous for 50 hours, so far works well and is well built. Got it again at wallyworld for 12 bucks.
Went to Wallyworld yesterday and bought both. Next week I'll get a couple of inexpensive LED flashlights they have.
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Old 10-05-2005, 10:37 AM   #15
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Went to Wallyworld yesterday and bought both. Next week I'll get a couple of inexpensive LED flashlights they have.
Good for you CSM, you wont be disappointed with them!
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My Surefire 6P is always with me.
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Old 10-06-2005, 03:30 PM   #17
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Anyone have or tried the Everlight flash light. You just shake it a few times to energize.
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Old 10-08-2005, 06:23 AM   #18
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Great Topic!! I have two Surfires, a 6P and a Z2 ( thanks to work), several maglites, minnimags, an assortment of GI angle heads, and an intrensicly safe flashlight. All have their purposes.

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I just bought a surefire G2 nitrolon the day before yesterday. Thanks to you folks who mentioned that option, as I wasnt previously aware of that particular model, and I like getting a surefire for $34 a lot better than paying $100+, and I dont see how the aluminum case would be proportionally better enough to justify the price difference. I am thinking about getting a couple of them, so I can have one in the house, one in the car, etc.. Does anyone know where I can get a nylon belt pouch that will fit my new flashlight?

I saw an everlight for the first time in person today at the gunshow. The seller had them in two sizes, and I examined the larger one. It was decently bright and appeared well made. I might eventually get one of those too. He also had the grundig wind up emergency radios, but he wanted a bit more than some other places I have seen them, and I decided I had already spent too much money today.
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Old 10-08-2005, 09:06 PM   #20
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I'm going out tomorrow to find a Surefire G2 Nitrolon. I don't know of any place around here locally that carries them... just gonna check things out. Maybe Gander Mountain or Dick's Sporting Goods... otherwise, I'd probably hafta truck it down to Cabela's. Blah. I don't wanna order online 'cuz then I'd hafta wait for it.

And new toys are always better... NOW.
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