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Old 12-21-2013, 09:27 PM   #1
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Any ideas for helping the recoil on an 870 with a LEO topfolder stock?

I had one years ago when I was young and recoil seemed like a good thing. Now I recently picked up an NOS law enforcement only top folder stock for my home defense 870, and I have to say I've become a wimp in my old age, cause it hurts like all get out to shoot more then a few rounds. Anyone else out there have one of these things and have come up with a way to make the recoil more tolerable?
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Old 12-21-2013, 10:26 PM   #2
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First suggestion I can think of is to find someone who lusts after that folding stock and put a standard butt stock on it. It hurts to look at a picture of one of those, let alone shoot it.

There are recoil absorbant stocks (hydro-coil?), limb saver recoil pads and various other widgets, but with the exception of the hydraulic stock, they all need standard stocks to work with. Check the Brownells website.
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It hurts to look at a picture of one of those, let alone shoot it."

Best advice all year… I gather you've shot one too...
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It hurts to look at a picture of one of those, let alone shoot it."

Best advice all year… I gather you've shot one too...
Never shot one, but I have a 10/22 folding metal stock (Federal Ordnance) that was never pleasant to shoot, even in .22LR. I can't even IMAGINE lighting up something so stocked in 12GA.

William had it right: Ditch that thing for a conventional stock, and then start playing with recoil pads.

OR just go down to a 20GA.

(Having shot Mas Ayoob's LaRocca-prepped 1100 in 20GA, I'm amazed that that chambering doesn't get more love for social use.)
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http://www.battenfeldtechnologies.co...st-recoil-pads
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Old 12-22-2013, 09:19 AM   #6
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I've got a Knoxx stock on my 870 social gun. Works for me; turns the slap of recoil into more of a push.

Most folks like them, some hate them.
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I've shot lots of 50BMGs over the years and wasn't too phased by them, so I don't know if it's this stock's design or just the angle it distributes the recoil back with, but I'm not liking it at all. The only reason why I got it was because my oldest son always thought top folders were cool after seeing Jurassic Park as a kid. I'm tempted to give it to him and stay with my Benelli. I was just hoping someone figured out a pad that would fit on these folders or had some other trick to make them more comfortable to shoot. Here's a pic if some of the guys don't know what stock I'm talking about.
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Laplander,

1st, WELCOME ABOARD.

IF it was me, I'd "ditch" that folding stocked 870 and get a 18" double barrel to replace it, as there is little difference in overall length.

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Best advice all year… I gather you've shot one too...
Noooooo. Just the appearance of it was enough. The eagerness of the Remington rep to get someone to shoot it was another clue. No one bit.

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...and get a 18"double barrel....
Struggling to restrain a Joe Biden comparison......
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Old 12-22-2013, 03:36 PM   #10
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William R Moore,

The STUPID "POOR JOE" Biden, VPOTUS, suggested that one should shoot up into the air to scare away prowlers. One would presume that he believes that shot EVAPORATES in the air.

FWIW, I carried a "sawed-off" Fox 12gauge DB for over 2 decades, while "pinned to a badge" and never had even a single thug who wished to see what the results of 2 loads of #1 buckshot would be upon their person.
Therefore, I called it my "Crime Prevention System", as taking it out of the car "promoted a return to a state of peace & civility".

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FWIW, I carried a "sawed-off" Fox 12gauge DB for over 2 decades, while "pinned to a badge" and never had even a single thug who wished to see what the results of 2 loads of #1 buckshot would be upon their person.
Therefore, I called it my "Crime Prevention System", as taking it out of the car "promoted a return to a state of peace & civility".

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Well, while not my first choice as a social weapon, it certainly is not one I'd take lightly.

Particularly if it were pointed in my direction...
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WaltGraham, et. al.,

I also call a "sawed-off" DB an INTIMIDATOR, as MOST thugs have some idea as to what buckshot does out of a 12 gauge.
(KEEPING THE PEACE was always my GOAL, though that was/is not always possible, when you are a city marshal. - I was also assisted in a rural county in KNOWING most of the people, both law-abiding & law-breakers. = Between my deputies & I, we knew EVERYBODY, who was resident or frequently in the county.) - Rural LE is REALLY different from city/suburban LE.)

Preventing a crime being committed is almost always preferable to having to deal with the consequences of the aftermath of an incident.

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Well, while not my first choice as a social weapon, it certainly is not one I'd take lightly.

Particularly if it were pointed in my direction...
Agreed!
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WaltGraham; SpecialEd; All,

To quote my GF, "Opinions are what make horse races."
(CHUCKLE.)

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I've got a Knoxx stock on my 870 social gun. Works for me; turns the slap of recoil into more of a push.

Most folks like them, some hate them.
Yeah Walt, I got that from various sources on the interweb. About 50/50 love it-hate it.

For me a 12 gauge with buck has never been a fun gun to shoot. But then I never had one with a stock that fit my short arms either, except for a couple of coach guns. And while I still own one of those, it's not pleasant even with light trap or field loads. Beats the hell out of my shoulder.

It does have a certain psychological effect looking at it from the barrel end though.
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I simply put a quality recoil pad right on the buttplate of that folder- and backed that up with a past recoil pad on the shoulder- the magnum model- reduced the recoil nicely and only made the lop about an inch longer
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I know it's elementary, but sometimes we forget the elementary stuff: tuck that puppy up snug against your shoulder, and I mean really snug.

I used to sit on an old ballistic ejection seat...the kind with a cannon shell instead of a rocket. The seat had minimal -- and I mean minimal -- padding, and it was an excruciatingly uncomfortable bitch after about a half hour, sooner if you were pulling g's. The cushion had to be thin because the impulse on that seat was such that if it had more than a quarter-inch of padding to compress before it hit your butt, it would crack your spine.

I was used to shooting my Garand when I finally got my M1903. The Garand had spoiled me, and I'd gotten a little lax about a tight tuck into the shoulder. The first few times I touched off the Springfield that girl about dislocated my shoulder. After the lightbulb went on, and I started jamming her back in tight, she and I got along a lot better.
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CaptainGyro,

UNDERSTOOD.
(I learned that lesson WELL, when I started shooting my old prof's ,about 8.5 pound, .375 H&H. = Even an Aggie will "snug it in tight", after just ONE round.)

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I used to sit on an old ballistic ejection seat...the kind with a cannon shell instead of a rocket.
Now that's something I didn't know.
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I simply put a quality recoil pad right on the buttplate of that folder- and backed that up with a past recoil pad on the shoulder- the magnum model- reduced the recoil nicely and only made the lop about an inch longer
That was my original thought, but with the LOP already at 14", I would have to cut the stock down a couple of inched to make a pad work. Plus that metal rail my cheek rests on hurts with every load. Any companies out there that specialize in shortening these factory folders?
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