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Old 09-04-2010, 11:28 AM   #1
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Remington 1100 or Mossberg 930SPX

Not sure where to ask this, so decided general smoothbore discussion was appropriate. I'm considering a purchase - a Remington 1100 Tac 2 - or a Mossberg 930SPX. Both have similar features, except the Mossy has some extras, like ghost ring sights vs. the Rem's plain bead sight. Frankly, I don't find the bead sight all that much of a draw back. The prices are close - w/pistol grip stocks, short barrels, extended mags, etc. The Mossy is chambered for 3", the Rem for 2 3/4 - SPX can carry one more round, I believe. So, it comes down to the number ONE issue - does either design have a distinct advantage in reliability? I'm asking, because I owned a Mossberg Jungle Gun years ago - loved the compact weapon. But, the first thing that happened was the charging handle flew off into parts unknown. Has Mossberg got their act together - or does Remington have the edge in design and reliability?
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Re: Remington 1100 or Mossberg 930SPX

The Remington 1100 is an old, well proven design. There are a wide number of accessories available for it. There's a Jerry Kuhnhausen Shop Manual available for it that shows all gunsmithing for the 1100. Some repairs you can do yourself using the manual.

The Mossberg is a fairly new design. There aren't many accessories available.
There's no repair or gunsmithing manuals available.
Last, Mossberg has a bad history of semi-auto shotguns. Over the years, Mossberg has often brought out a new auto shotgun, only to discontinue it after a couple of years.
In just recent years Mossberg has attempted to sell the following autos:
Model 712.
The Howa made Model 1000 which was first imported by S&W.
The Model 5500.
The Model 6000.
The Model 9200.
Now the 930.

This doesn't mean you won't get a great shotgun, but with that track record, you might want to do some heavy-duty investigating first.
I'd look for a big shotgun forum and do some serious reading and asking.
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Old 09-04-2010, 05:52 PM   #3
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Re: Remington 1100 or Mossberg 930SPX

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The Remington 1100 is an old, well proven design. There are a wide number of accessories available for it. There's a Jerry Kuhnhausen Shop Manual available for it that shows all gunsmithing for the 1100. Some repairs you can do yourself using the manual.

The Mossberg is a fairly new design. There aren't many accessories available.
There's no repair or gunsmithing manuals available.
Last, Mossberg has a bad history of semi-auto shotguns.
Pretty much the way I'd have answered the question if I hadn't been too lazy to type it all out.

I own three Mossy 500s and one 870. While the 500s are good guns, there's no comparison between them and the 870. It's like comparing a Cadillac with a Kia or Hyundai. Both will get you across town (or across the country, for that matter), but for about the same money, which would you rather drive or ride in?
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Old 09-04-2010, 06:53 PM   #4
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Re: Remington 1100 or Mossberg 930SPX

I am personally aware of two 1100's that are skeet guns, both have close to a million (1.000,000) rounds thru them and they are running just fine,
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Old 09-06-2010, 10:04 AM   #5
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Re: Remington 1100 or Mossberg 930SPX

Thanks for the information! Found a site which went into some depth on the 1100. There are a number of things that require attention, though this is NOT a criticism. One post had info on when to replace the action spring, the buffer, where to grease and how to keep from cutting fingers by simply using a Q-tip - never fingers. They pointed out certain weak spots which the grease helps to actually buffer. Pipe cleaners and brushes are best for cleaning - but never steel wool, at least a habit of using steel wool to clean. Apparently, this guy had significant parts breakage or wear (ex. - magazine tube breaking off, buffer shattered, etc.), BUT this was over thousands and thousands of rounds for something like 20 years - or more. The gist was taking the time to apply grease here and there, checking parts for wear after so many rounds or time passed - cleaning after the day's use, and making sure the O-rings are ok as well as the usual lubing w/oil where called for - all this is required if you want to keep the beast going - like the old adage - take care of the gun, it'll take care of you.
I probably won't shoot more than 1000-rounds a year. Last time I shot more was skeet shooting - with a pump Mossberg Persuader - it's all i had, but it worked! I think for those unfamiliar w/semi-auto shotguns, the check list can be daunting. Like most guns, once you become familiar with it, the care-giving becomes routine - and hopefully, the gun does what it's meant to do. Anyway, thanks for the help. Oh, I couldn't help noticing some of the newer 870 Remingtons decked out in powder green finish and desert camo w/tactical choke - whatever THAT does. I might reconsider
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