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Old 09-08-2005, 09:27 AM   #1
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Norinco M97 shotguns....Opinioins?

Was looking at one without a bayonet adapter. Seemed solid and sturdy and tight, but I have been told to stay away from the early ones.

Does anyone know the serial number cut off on these to purchase a quality one?

Are they well made guns? What are your experiences with them?
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Old 09-08-2005, 02:16 PM   #2
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I got a M97 trenchgun a few months back, and I like mine. The only thing is that you have to put a lot of shells thru em to break em in. The only problem that could be considered critical that I have w/ mine is a crack in the stock. The hotter it gets, the more profound the crack is. But that's nothing I can't fix with some time, sand paper, and glue. They're decent guns. I'd go for it if the price is right.
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Old 09-08-2005, 09:22 PM   #3
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You want one with a seriel number starting at 200,000 or higher.
Mine has been rough and tight. Very rugged, nothing has broken, and given excellent service.
To smooth them out, you can have an action job done or just shoot it.
I would recommend buying some Lock tite and use it on the little screw just to the left of the hammer.
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Old 09-30-2005, 10:19 PM   #4
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I got one of the trench guns in 2003 and I havent had to do anything other than lock-tite the bead on the heat shield. Its a good solid gun that gets smoother every time I shoot it. If you can get a decent price on one I agree, go for it.
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Old 10-01-2005, 05:33 AM   #5
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Norinco M97

I found one in a local shop. Serial number 336 for $310. Buy just because of the low serial number?
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Old 10-01-2005, 09:26 AM   #6
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Maybe it depends on the specific model.
Among the 97 coach guns, unless you think it has some collector value, I would stay away from it.
Brand new ones sell for about $350.
The first series, while strong enough for most loadings, did have operational problems.
For $40 difference, I would rather have one that I can shoot reliably.
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Old 10-04-2005, 03:36 PM   #7
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first of all. what's with the 200,000 cut off?
mine's is just over 100K. couple hundred rds through it, all's good.

it's a fine weapon. all i have seen posted about them is postive.

i've heard that "real" 97 parts interchange with the red guns. and they also don't have a trigger disconnect+++++.

i'd jump on it.........wait i already did
i wanted a trench, but found this riot instead.
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Old 10-04-2005, 04:37 PM   #8
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Nice M97 photo

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first of all. what's with the 200,000 cut off?
mine's is just over 100K. couple hundred rds through it, all's good.

it's a fine weapon. all i have seen posted about them is postive.

i've heard that "real" 97 parts interchange with the red guns. and they also don't have a trigger disconnect+++++.

i'd jump on it.........wait i already did
i wanted a trench, but found this riot instead.

The newer ones I have handled, have a smoother action right out of the box. The wood on the newer ones are 100% better also.

Where did you get the shotgun shell pouch?
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Old 10-04-2005, 05:21 PM   #9
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Chinese weapons historically have been made with soft metal. They look good,but prolonged use usually shows up the flaws in a hurry.(Parts peening or breaking!) Of course US weapons have been getting more and more cruder out of the box with the competition from the Chinese heating up! Competition usually makes products better,but we seem to be getting worse with companies cutting corners to save money! Maybe the newer Chinese models will get better and give our lazy US companies something to shoot for! I know the last bunch of new US guns I've purchased were really crude and didn't work hardly at all out of the box,with some even breaking or had parts missing or fallen off!!

Good Luck!
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Old 10-04-2005, 06:07 PM   #10
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Norinco pistols and soft metal

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Chinese weapons historically have been made with soft metal. They look good,but prolonged use usually shows up the flaws in a hurry.(Parts peening or breaking!) Of course US weapons have been getting more and more cruder out of the box with the competition from the Chinese heating up! Competition usually makes products better,but we seem to be getting worse with companies cutting corners to save money! Maybe the newer Chinese models will get better and give our lazy US companies something to shoot for! I know the last bunch of new US guns I've purchased were really crude and didn't work hardly at all out of the box,with some even breaking or had parts missing or fallen off!!

Good Luck!
What about the Norinco 1911 psitols. All I hear about is how damn hard the metal is on those. Something does not add up here.
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Old 10-04-2005, 06:43 PM   #11
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Some parts were too hard(slides and frames), but some were too soft(internals). M-1A receivers also were too soft! The Chinese just haven't got the metallurgy down yet! They can copy anything on the planet to a "T" ,but their metallurgical skills have yet to be perfected! Watch out US when they do! (The Japs have done it though!) Their Browning copies and knife steels are as good or better than ours now!
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Old 10-04-2005, 11:24 PM   #12
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The problem is inconsistancy and quality control.
The 97 shotguns were made in three series, each one being better than the previous. You will find good and bad samples in all 3, but you stand a better chance as the numbers get higher.
The Norinco 1911s are great guns to improve upon. Some people complain about them. I have not seen enough samples to make a judgement.
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Old 10-07-2005, 11:40 PM   #13
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I had a Norinco 1911. It sucked...I guess I had one of the bad ones.

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