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Old 09-14-2009, 09:20 AM   #1
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Targets and hole chasing...

Had a few thoughts on good targets and bullet hole chasing generated as I watched someone shooting yesterday at the range. So, in no particular order..

Targets that show the bullet holes (clearly) to the shooter diminish the value of defensive shooting practice. Why? I've noticed lots of shooters drop the handgun a bit in a string of fire as they are apparently tracking the bullet holes instead of the sights. IMHO, covering the target with a T shirt is much more realistic as the shooter cannot watch his bullet holes. Bullet holes (entrance wounds) will not show for several seconds if at all on a mammal. I've shot a lot of critters that had zero bleeding from the entrance wound.

Targets don't have to be IPSC quality. I use a lot of paper plates (9 inch ones) that you can buy for about 5 bucks per 250. That's a lot of shooting for pennies. When I want to do rifle work or precision handgun, I just stick a "dot" on the paper plate to have a smaller aiming point. "Dots" are also inexpensive and available from any office supply store.

Paper grocery bags (my Wal-Mart is re-introducing them) make excellent targets. They are a decent size, good color, cheap and sturdy.

I find masking tape makes a good cheap substitute for target pasters.

If you want a bunch of targets, run a line (cord or string) between two points and use clothes pins to hang your targets. With a little imagination, you can vary your targets heights, get some (limited) movement if the wind is blowing and use different targets (paper plates, charcoal briquettes, etc.) for a much more interesting shooting experience.

Clay pigeons make good cheap reactive targets.
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Old 09-14-2009, 06:30 PM   #2
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For super cheapo targets, you can also use regular 8.5x11in notebook paper. Ditto the masking tape; I can make a target last just about the whole session--the indoor range I use requires that shooters buy their targets, though we can bring our own ammo.
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When I want to do rifle work or precision handgun, I just stick a "dot" on the paper plate to have a smaller aiming point. "Dots" are also inexpensive and available from any office supply store.
Sometimes I think I do better when I have a dot to aim at instead of an indistinct area target.

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Paper grocery bags (my Wal-Mart is re-introducing them) make excellent targets. They are a decent size, good color, cheap and sturdy.
I remember one writer discussing a way to make two mini-IPSC targets out of a paper grocery bag. You cut the bag all the way down the center of the widest sides, and through the bottom. Then cut along the folds at the bottom, except where it meets the skinny side of the bag. When you unfold it, the bottom becomes the head, and the rest is the torso. He jokingly called it the "A&P target".
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The thread title reminds me of the bullet ad from a few years ago, the theme of which was, "The hole becomes the target", in touting their product's accuracy.
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The thread title reminds me of the bullet ad from a few years ago, the theme of which was, "The hole becomes the target", in touting their product's accuracy.

They sell you a blank roll of paper and a magic marker. You draw in the bullseye AFTER you fire your shots!
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The thread title reminds me of the bullet ad from a few years ago, the theme of which was, "The hole becomes the target", in touting their product's accuracy.

They sell you a blank roll of paper and a magic marker. You draw in the bullseye AFTER you fire your shots!
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Dan, that's the best explanation of the "paper bag target" I've ever read. Thanks!

The hole becomes the target is a great practice drill, one of my favorites in fact. I generally like to shoot it at 7 yards or so with no time limit - just good clean trigger breaks, re-sets and follow through.
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Dan, that's the best explanation of the "paper bag target" I've ever read. Thanks!

The hole becomes the target is a great practice drill, one of my favorites in fact. I generally like to shoot it at 7 yards or so with no time limit - just good clean trigger breaks, re-sets and follow through.
"Aim small, miss small". Like you said, good for honing the fundamentals. As you also alluded to in the original post, aiming for the "center of target" is necessary to beready for Bro Mas' "Dark Place".
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I watched a clip once of what was probably the best feat of chase the hole I ever saw. IIRC, the clip had made it's way to Youtube and the shooter was the actor Steven Seagal. Of course, not everybody can afford 1911s by Tussey but, he ended up with one,small, ragged hole. Very impressive.
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I watched a clip once of what was probably the best feat of chase the hole I ever saw. IIRC, the clip had made it's way to Youtube and the shooter was the actor Steven Seagal. Of course, not everybody can afford 1911s by Tussey but, he ended up with one,small, ragged hole. Very impressive.
That's what's ironic about Segal. NO, he was never a spook, and the movie plots have become bat-in-the-belfry weird, but the man is an excellent shot with a handgun, and ain't a slouch at unarmed combat, either.
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